Su-34 has only 6x Laser + IOG missiles, which is 3x less than EFT while sharing the same guidance method.
Su-34 is also worse in FM and A2A weaponry departments.
At that point it’s only advantage would be missile’s speed, so how would that be balanced ?
you still have missile payload
you oneshot pretty much everything
game balance is alot more nuanced as you make it ot to be,
it isnt a simple pro and cons list
And you still have 3x less amount.
you need to shot atleast 2 brimstones for a kill if not even 3
18 / 2 = 9
9 > 6
I will be generous and say they’re equal, which would be fine if FM and A2A departments weren’t handily in EFT’s favor.
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So why would you want your dedicated fighter to be as effective at ground pounding as the fighter bomber ?
We should ask Gaijin that, as they’re unwilling to decompress planes in GRB.
SM3 is a subsonic that carries less A2G and A2A that Su-34, so them sharing the same BR is weird.
Or SM3 should lose IRs and move down in BR, as having subsonic plane with almost no A2A at 12.7 is weird.
So we’ve come from 2 or 3 to now 4 missiles per kill.
Soon enough you’ll have all 16 Brimstones need to be launched at a single target to get it killed.
I acknowledged the speed difference.
I also acknowledged amount of payload per aircraft.
You know that stats work both ways, right ?
You never touched top tier in GRB so you discussing balance there is pointless as your highest BR ground vehicle played is 8.0 Leopard. You have < 50 ground kills in total in across all your rank 8 planes and I can bet none of those happened in GRB.
You discussing balance in a certain tier of the game mode you barely touched is weird.
If I wanted to be a clown I’d say Su-34 would be balanced with Laser + IOG missiles.
I can still use that shit in simulator or test it at all and atleast have acces to that.
I was talking about 4x kh38 on su25 vs 6x kh38 on su34
but like i said this is pointless as neither of us is going to change our stance on that so pls just stop it as it serves zero purpose at all.
…and if you still want to cry about it somewhere open a dedicated thread
And I can watch videos from people that know what they’re talking about.
As I said, SM3 is now a pointless aircraft at 12.7.
It should lose IRs and go down in BR as being subsonic and having only two A2A missiles (not even radar ones) is a major disadvantage at that BR.
Cry about what ?
the balance of weapons you cant access
Sorry but it doesn’t take a genius to know Su-34 without IRs would be far from good at 12.7.
You also haven’t told me why would you want your dedicated fighter to have on-par ground pounding capabilities as a strike bus ?
iam gonna use my time and energy for something more productive than having a pointless disscussion
Id recomend getting the Typhoon its IRL Radar. Its fully modeled GMTI/T mode would be awesome for GRB, the ability to locate both moving and stationary targets (and whilst its not modeled yet, but hopefully in the future) also ID said targets would be awesome addition for the Typhoons CAS power.
well ground players need to understand that CAS and A2G weapons are designed to be as unfair as poissible for the guys on the ground, so you will never have a balanced expierence at top tier Ground
…unless you completly remove cas
Yeah and given the SP Costs, they shouldnt be equal in performance. Just annoying only one nations has any form of SPAA at top tier currently, but oh well, hopefully that is getting fixed in 2025
Yeah, you should actually try to make your main game mode less of a cesspool.
the main game mode is air
WT origanally never had tanks and were added later
you can trace wt back to IL2
I know this discussion was largely over, but I do hope Gaijin keeps the Eurofighters different in terms of IIR missiles. Keep IRIS-T to Germany/Italy and keep ASRAAM to UK. Don’t mix the two missiles.
Not my point but okay.
probably, but in the end we have to wait and see as they all could theoretically carry both