The plane is CAS is very good even without fire and forget
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Lobbing Mavericks is just 100% better than anything EF2000 offers. Holding laserlocks is meh.
Me when i murder the Su34 and Paveway IV the tank just fine
It is quite good if you are having issues that a you issue
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Why’s that, we have proof it met the requirements, meaning it needs to Atleast be > the requirement values, and the EFA data is missing thrust will will impact the sustained rate more than the 800kg mass difference
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i just hope this rule isn’t broken in the future…
We’ve been disappointed with a lot these past few times.
It isn’t for “unknown weight” it is for 100% fuel(4300kg) ma + 4 missiles, that is the test config… The final aircraft is about 500kg heavier but that is irrelevant, at 4300kg of fuel it must meet, and did meet, the requirement, I note you say 2 missiles but the test is at 4, hopefully that is just a typo.
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Additionally, the 10,000ft test should be at M0.7 not M0.6 @Smin1080p_WT
It seems your consultant has confused the instantaneous test conditions.
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You are 100% using it wrong.
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Looks like someone doesnt know that Brimstones and Paveways does have IOG and Gps guidance.
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It’s not F&F in-game though
What i mean is you can fire brimstones, turn off lock and IOG plus Gps guidance will keep guiding to last location while you can fly safe then you can get out from cover until 8-10 seconds left on the clock, turn on laser again and destroy enemy spaas easily.
Im using this method and it works perfectly fine on both Brimstones and Paveways.
Yeah i got a 5 kill dive with the paveways on a city map yesterday, usually now i take 8 paveway+6 brimstones which are pretty good at cas/killing enemy helis, not as good as su34 and f15e or even f16c i’d say but still good
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So it’s not F&F, when I see Eurofighter launching things I ignore his ordnance usually and just fire my Pantsir missile at the plane itself and stay mobile, all his ordnance lands short.
I am forced to actually shoot down incoming mavericks or spikes because they are F&F.
EFT can easily dodge Pantsir’s missiles while keep guiding Brimstones easily, i’ve never died to a single Pantsir in my EFT due to bein superior to any enemy Spaa.
Pantsir is the only thing that can be threat to enemy jets but even then its hopeless against a pilot who knows what his doing.
I usually send couple Brimstones on Pantsir’s way, get behind cover and suddenly pulls out until couple seconds left then turn on my laser lock, they are just helpless in that case.
Thats also another problem that Spaa’s has to deal, hopefully gaijin introduce more capable Spaa’s soon so they can engage with Air units more effectively cause even Pantsir is helpless against competetent Cas pilot.
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Yeah that always works on city maps or maps with cover but when there’s plains i fire brimstones lock the pantsir, and do a 12 km circle while keeping my belly at the enemy type of manouver and usually the pantsir won’t bother/the missile doesn’t have enough maneuvrability at that range to kill
I don’t really care about entire discussion, but playing Pantsir? I don’t know how lazy or boring person should be to do so
If your weapon is good, and people think it is bad, it’s good for you, ain’t it? No point in explaining it to them
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Actually its quite fun and relaxing, until a competetent Cas player spawns :D
I would not say hopeless, just useless. The Pantsir shouldn’t be dying to enemy CAS but that depends on other conditionals. CAS at top tier is really annoying because it is flying with impunity whether it be a F-14, F-15, F-16, MiG-29, Su-27, Mirage 2000, Rafale, Eurofighter, whatever. If it’s supersonic and has a climb rate over 150 m/s it is just too easy to set up. The only difference is that some of the newer additions carry considerably more ordnance than earlier CAS.
If I have no shot of shooting down the fighter then of course I will just eliminate his ordnance and be a nuisance in that way. If none of his missiles impact the target because I intercepted them - he will be annoyed rather quickly.
I usually only play with friends and we just cover each other and swap AA’s, other player has something with smoke. Just shoot down enemy missiles and stay near a point for rearmament. Make their entire CAS excursion fruitless.
To me its god tier, especially after bein stuck with Tornado and F4F ICE for a good amount of time.
My German EFT does everything i ask from it, only thing that saddens me is that it doesnt get PIRATE IRST, but i guess it is what it is.
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