china never used the r77m afaik
they use the PL15 and PL17 like you said
Is the aim260 even in service?
i only heard of tests
The only ones they used were the RVV-AE (Export R-77) and RVV-SD (Export R-77-1, which was spotted in China), but that’s outta topic anyway
With 100% fuel and no weapons the wings will absolutely break at 12.5g
Test it yourself if you care to find out.
The wings in the eurofighter do not break at 12g. I’ve played the EF a ludicrous amount and I’ve not broken my wings at all and im pulling 12g all the time.
You may be pulling more than 12g, but not long enough to break the wings.
Or you might be using a much lighter load.
On min fuel and no weapons you will rip your wings at 15+g
EF breaks at 18G
most of the time it breaks at 13-14gs at most fuel loads. 18gs is nonsense in the sense that it’s its rips at that g load, they rip at max 14.5 gs.
3 things
1st you used trim to circumvent compression
2nd you pulled 13G right before your wing broke
3rd with18Gs i meant release/ pre Hornets Sting EF
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Yes, I used trim to circumvent compression, its to prove a point that the wings absolutely break at 12.5g, but as you see in the video, the wings will break before compression occurs. It is simply easier to control the aircraft using trim in sim controls using M&K
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War thunder G warning rounds to the nearest whole number.
If you are pulling 12.5g, it shows at 13g, I graciously installed WRTI to show that in the turn I broke my wings, my turn peaked at 12.9g and reduced to 12.2g before my wings actually broke. -
How is that even close to being relevant?
even before hornet sting they broke at 14.5gs max… It’s just that you cant sit above that rip limit for more than 4 seconds.
yes, every other top tier expect for the rafale rips at around the same point under the same conditions. this is normal and the rafale is an outlier.
True, rafale only rip at around 16.5 gs or higher at super low fuel
Don’t mind me, just pulling a little more than 16.5g…
It actually goes even higher than this, its just hard to time print screen screenshots cuz they close my game, which is why I usually just use F12, but i figured ud say I was lying about the fuel load or something dumb like that.
i mean sure thats instantaneous, so not surprising. pull more than 16.97 gs for more than 6 seconds and ill be surprised.
I just wounder how a game which is meant to be somewhat realistic allows these G pulls. What about the pilot ???
What? i just stated a fact. I didn’t pit any feeling/emotion behind it. All i did was list out numbers that statshark spat out to me.
- Statshark is decent, but dont take it as gospel. Its often wrong to some degree, so take all it gives you with a grain of salt.
- You dont understand the chart if you pulled 16.5g as the G-limit for the Rafale. Thats the statshark stated lift limit, which is what statshark assumes to be the max G-load that can be pulled considering the parameters inputted and the amount of lift the jet can produce. There is no G-limit on the chart.
- You clearly dont understand what max G-limits are in general if you think “it only pulled 20G+ for a short bit, no big deal, G’s only count if they’re sustained”
Sorry if I’m coming off a little short, I’m not a fan of ppl spreading misinformation.
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15g/s This is not a structural limit, but the rate at which overload is created. Stop wishful thinking
