If you have an SPAA capable of doing that.
Four of one of the best IR missile in the world feels quite far from a DoA vehicle to me.
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i hope it has good radar and tracking capabilities.
Then you can’t really sell the Type 81 not having a radar as an advantage?
There’s pretty massive differences in effectiveness between good and bad Pantsir/ItO players, actually.
I never said it’s equal to the Pantsir. I said it’s currently very effective. The IRIS-T SLS should be an upgrade over it in pretty much every category, so it stands to reason it will perform better. Even if the engagement envelope is smaller than the Pantsir, an SPAA that reliably and easily swats all of the very abundant short to mid range CAS out of the sky still has value.
Yeah, the lock range of the Type 81 is a problem. We’ll have to see how the IRIS-T SLS does in that regard.
which is my biggest critic on most top tier spaa, i can not attack multiple targets at once, (exept pansir and tor) and most have less missles than 1 average CAS plane can carry fire and forget munition
I don’t think it would, Pantsir can also auto guide its missiles turning them effectively into F&F missiles when used against Helicopters/Munition, and it can fire without having a lock against targets at longer ranges. The EldE 98 without LOAL is going to rely fully on the lock range and if that is on the shorter side then any CAS is going to easily outrange it. Pantsir can at the very least make CAS need to take evasive maneuvers (and thus perhaps lose laser lock or not be able to fly towards and fire IR-AGM) even if it doesn’t hit at longer ranges, it’s still useful. EldE 98 won’t be able to do that without LOAL if the lock range is to short.
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do you need to be stationary to fire?
It makes aircraft go evasive the moment they spawn. Nothing else does that in game to date. This addition will not change the status-quo.
since we have pictures with an foldet launcher, it would say yes, since gaijin does not give players the option to choose state of launchers themself
Oh absolutely, what i’m currently fearing is the lock range. if that is to short then it might struggle at top BR.
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Yeah, I still expect a system like the ItO to be better for longer range… but this is all speculation until the lock range comes out.
aircraft should spawn way further out since a long time, since they, in my opinion should not be able to lock and launch munition at the moment they spawn
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I came to the same conclusion by looking at the pictures, i was looking for a confirmation
So no mention of its ability to engage IIR when it goes into terminal phase (hoping this is modelled) because it should make these all but impossible to counter.
10-12km on a ground launched platform… so your looking at best 8km to have any effective maneuvering of the missile tp ensure it hits fast moving targets.
Like who and what is this system even for exactly? its just a manpad with radar and has worse than current SAMs right now.
Unless they add LOAL to the EldE 98. It would be a good time to test it out.
correct me if I’m wrong but this would be the first vehicle in game that has weapons mounted on a trailer right?
Then you can’t really sell the Type 81 not having a radar as an advantage?
Because it’s not, and it’s stupid to place it at top tier, but it is an advantage to not getting killed but then it gets punished with endless uptiering from 10.0 to top tier because snail doesn’t understand context.
Yeah, the lock range of the Type 81 is a problem. We’ll have to see how the IRIS-T SLS does in that regard.
Even with good lock range, 12km isn’t going to be enough to actually stop the long range weaponry, it might be a stronger counter against closer ranged stuff but that will just stop being used and everyone will switch to the long range.
stealthy boi, if they don’t get radar pinged they don’t know that you are tracking them
I mean, the Pantsir should be remover and everyone else would be on equal footing. But that wont happen. I just don’t understand the hype for this when it doesnt appear to change anything. Okay, so anything within 12km is challenged but we can already engage outside that range and there are even better standoff weapons on the horizon.
Because you’re not tracking them because you don’t know where they are