I think he is right about datalink and LOAL
I don’t. Not until it is available to test. Because depending on how they model the seeker, it should have an acquisition range in excess of its kinematic performance (at least equivalent to its air launched range, based on the information we have), which the devs could decide is good enough and easier.
You know what? you missed the part that the launcher in the eldenhet 98 is at °90 degrees and its static the missile cannot see the targets to lock directly in the planes this completly means that it would need %100 the help of the phased array radar this also means that the missile most likely would have IOG+LOAL and maybe DL just keep this in mind because this whole system its not like a strela, type-93, LAVAD, Chaparral, Type-81C. if you are gonna say something more than what you say pls inform yourself better about how this systems works IRL.
LMFAO you mean like how you are so informed you don’t even know the LAV-AD (and basically every other K-Stinger) should have DL, yet doesn’t in-game.
And since you’re so informed what is the Off-bore/pre-launch gimbal of the IRIS-T?
Really… And you’re trying to make a point to me 🙄
He means the missile is vertical. He is technically true.
first of all the stinger doesn´t need those features because it would not go past 5km in game.
second of all the IRIS-T with DL and LOAL have 180 degrees of Off-bore and pre-launch gimbal. with just LOBL, it would be almost 90 degrees. It would be limited by the gimbal mechanism or the window on the tip of the missile many missiles cannot see past what they meant to see without any help of radars and DL+LOAL.
Base IRIS-T does not have a DL.
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yes i know that the first block does not have DL it just have LOAL am just generally speaking right now sorry if i mixed the things. but i think that i was kinda clear with the things am speaking right now.
considering the amount of times i’ve stared at a helo 2km away with mistrals, unable to lock, and assuming the stinger’s seeker is the same, i can confirm it could really use DL
This whole debate wouldn’t exist if IR signatures weren’t all over the place though : harder to lock in cold environment while it should be the opposite, some helicopters being almost as cold as a scout drone, invisible clouds messing with the lock, unstable lock that doesn’t give you the ability to properly fire, and the list goes on…
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the stinger would be more usefull if the give it LOAL thing that it should have and that! honestly speaking would be even more helpfull than DL.
I know exactly what he means. The missile is vertical. But if he wasn’t stupid he would know it has enough gimbal to fire at targets 90° off bore anyways, which means anything above what? 3M altitude?
It has derby too so i dont think it will be much inferior but even if it is so what?
I didnt meant the spyder sr will be a pantsir eqivlant
We just need it and it should have been added long time ago
kinda weird they add irist when we still dont have it dont u think
And my name is noam btw
Just remember the DL does not come out of thin air, the platform has to be able to provide it.
noam read what i said about the Spyder SR and what it needs for the derby to be used there and you will have the answer dont be stubborn. to be honest with you if the Spyder SR had been considered from the beginning I am %100 sure they would have added it much earlier, now its late thats why we are not gonna see it and we´ll see something better and on pair with other advance SPAAs and 5 gen IRs
That is the stowed launcher position.
This is the firing position. Notice how a 90° off bore capability gives the ability to aim and fire at anything not below the missile
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It is true that EldE lacks any form of E/O.
Does that mean slave to radar will be implememented? Who knows.
I would not be surprised if gaijin gave it a “fake turret” that would carry the missile seeker with it, forcing us to play a 3rd person lock game.
watch your tone and words because i didnt insult you.
second of all “yes wonderfull thats the firing position” but you need something to fire the missiles right? what you need? because as far as i know no missile can be fired without the assistance of an electro-optical sensor or radar. or maybe you think that the missiles use some kind of black magic to lock onto the planes could be that? sigh* this people in the forum man are geniuses.
I mean, it is entierly possible to enable the missile seeker and acces it. ASRAAM was used like that.
However i dont know if EldE has such capability,
Ofc ignoring the part where target gets in missile FOV by itself. You know, like most of the older missiles worked.
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Btw the leaks for the chinese one say it comes with manpads so…