I agree. Although I’m not familiar with the potential differences between the land based IRIS-T and the air-launched one.
Same range some russian AGMs have. So it would be right.
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Personaly me neither.
But i dont see gajin being so nice
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this is a 12KM death zone compared to the easily avoidable pantsir missile, this thing will definitely have its place in GRB
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Depends HIGHLY on lock range though, Pantsir can fire regardless of lock and do SACLOS guidance, IRIS-T requires lock before launch, unless they add LOAL which honestly would be the best time for a test of that functionality, but i wouldn’t keep my hopes op for that.
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I’m sure the radar lf the EldE 98 can be turned off.
Yeah but people probably want to use the radar because it’s absolutely stupid to sit at top tier and be expected to detect a pixel in a 360 radius that is supposed to be a plane at 15km away.
Systems like the Type 81 and now IRIS-T SLS are absolutely braindead to use
Yeah because other SPAA is somehow difficult to use, they’re all braindead, boring and unrewarding.
System performance is apparently not just measured by what people that really know what they’re doing can achieve with it
Which is the problem in this game because snail is incapable of interpreting data properly, which is baffling after 10 years but clearly they just do not care, which is why minor nations constantly get screwed over because the 10 people playing the Type 81 are going to do better than the 1000 people playing the Pantsir, but they treat it 1:1.
In what world is the Type 81 equal to the Pantsir? In what world should an SPAA that is incapable of locking onto targets 5km away, unable to lock onto drones, unable to defend itself and one that doesn’t even have a radar, be a top tier SPAA?
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Zero physical differences, it’s just a software update for the guidance logic. :P
You can literally take an IRIS-T of a Gripen, hook it to a computer and update it, put it on the Eldenhet 98 and fire it with no issues.
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Well that slightly better is based on the inherent differences between F&F and SACLOS in terms of battlefield presence.
Your post’s LOAL idea would make it more powerful than Pantsir further than what I expect.
This discussion is stirring away from the topic at hand… Please keep in mind that this topic IS about the EldE 98.
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Ru Mains often talking down Pantsir.
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Lovely, then it should definitely be a challenge for close range CAS.
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i have to say that top tier SPAA is not boring if you try to not only kill aircraft, but also try to intercept munition launched to protect your allys, like the SPAA role IRL
“Is the missile ready to fire at this incoming cruise missile??”
“Give me a second! The update is stuck at 99%”
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It just seems like it will be DoA without a better missile.
If you have an SPAA capable of doing that.
Four of one of the best IR missile in the world feels quite far from a DoA vehicle to me.
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i hope it has good radar and tracking capabilities.
Then you can’t really sell the Type 81 not having a radar as an advantage?
There’s pretty massive differences in effectiveness between good and bad Pantsir/ItO players, actually.
I never said it’s equal to the Pantsir. I said it’s currently very effective. The IRIS-T SLS should be an upgrade over it in pretty much every category, so it stands to reason it will perform better. Even if the engagement envelope is smaller than the Pantsir, an SPAA that reliably and easily swats all of the very abundant short to mid range CAS out of the sky still has value.
Yeah, the lock range of the Type 81 is a problem. We’ll have to see how the IRIS-T SLS does in that regard.
which is my biggest critic on most top tier spaa, i can not attack multiple targets at once, (exept pansir and tor) and most have less missles than 1 average CAS plane can carry fire and forget munition
I don’t think it would, Pantsir can also auto guide its missiles turning them effectively into F&F missiles when used against Helicopters/Munition, and it can fire without having a lock against targets at longer ranges. The EldE 98 without LOAL is going to rely fully on the lock range and if that is on the shorter side then any CAS is going to easily outrange it. Pantsir can at the very least make CAS need to take evasive maneuvers (and thus perhaps lose laser lock or not be able to fly towards and fire IR-AGM) even if it doesn’t hit at longer ranges, it’s still useful. EldE 98 won’t be able to do that without LOAL if the lock range is to short.
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