Unsure about the F-16C but the Barak II carries (From my understanding) the ELTA EL/L-8240 system in its tail under the rudder
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I posted it. The earliest model it was tested with is the F16A with the ALQ-165(V). A newer model was implemented in 1991 that is even better and from there only goes up. So essentially any of them can run it.
“In late FY95 an Air Force F-16 was shot down over Bosnia by a SAM. The operational commander urgently requested deployment of a developmental self protection system to improve survivability of F-16s and F/A-18C/Ds in the Bosnian theater of operations. Although successfully integrated on the F-16 and immediately available in limited numbers, the requested system was not compatible with the F/A-18C/D. The only system rapidly available to improve F/A-18C/D survivability against the threat of interest was the ASPJ. Contingency F/A-18C/D deployments continued as F-14D deployments began, resulting in potentially competing demands in the near term for available ASPJ systems.”
The F18 got something better “The F/A-18C/D with ASPJ was demonstrated during the FY92 OPEVAL, and since, to be more effective against selected modern threats than the F/A-18C/D with the AN/ALQ-126B. During the 4QFY95 shore based deployment which was evaluated, the suitability of ASPJ was adequate for the requirements placed on it during the contingency operations.”
And fun fact that same AN/ALQ-126B can be found on the F4 Phantoms: The Phantom Phacts: AN/ALQ-126 NOISE DECEPTION JAMMER
Of course this is just one system of many, as many aircraft do and have run multiple systems leading to a mess of antennas, but you don’t die…
or hear me out, how about a patch that isnt air focused for once at all and focuses on ground or even ewww naval
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Considering I posted this in the “Aircraft” portion of the forums, it seems the appropriate place to discuss this. The cases of updates to the Ground and Naval modes of the game should likely go into those sections.
doesnt matter realy where you posted it. Its still a valid opinion that air section of the game was the main focus point for a good while now, hell even the freaking introduction of rank 8 ground was more air focused.
Its a fact we could do with an update that isnt air focused. You are demanding and demanding for the newest toys while completly forgetting the other game modes.
Do you know what would be a way better addition next patch then ECM? Regenerative steering for tanks. Air as of right now does not need another air focused update specialy after it just got the fox 3 update.
The fact as well that you tried to make me “shut up” with its not the ground section jesus thats entitlement
Which nation did I leave out? I even suggested this because the UK tree has suffered long enough and this would be a huge boost to their line up. The UK will most likely get the CF18 (It should) and with internal ECM it would allow them to be a part of the Top Meta. This also applies to all nations that get the EF Typhoon. Its a way to bring everyone up to top tier.
Because you are in the Air section of the forums, a place to discuss and present the next iterations that Air should see. If you have a gripe with overall features, they literally have a thread for that in the next update that covers everything. I put this in an air specific forum for discussion. If you are concerned you are being left out then it goes here: Next patch and beyond wishlist(Everything except Tech Trees) - #756 by someweirdname
The development teams are separate in air, ground, and naval. Efforts spent on air this patch does not detract from efforts spent on ground this patch as Smin has explained. If anything, more priority on aircraft ECM would take away from other aircraft stuff. Nothing to do with ground.
force of habit *forgetting the other game modes *
I don’t recall the US aircrafts having any internal ECM until Super Hornet and F-35/F-22. I’d be glad to be wrong though.
Cool today I learned, Cheers.
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Please read my other posts, including the link I posted which states how the F18C/D got upgraded internal ECM during the Bosnian war separate from the F16 & F14s. One that was implemented with the F4 Phantom as well.
The IDECM program for the F18 E/F originally was required to be backward compatible with the ASDJ systems. However they found it too expensive to run multiple systems, so they developed a better all in one system. Easier on maint, and less costly than running both.
Well, I consider myself proven wrong regarding the F-18C.
However what about the A-10A? We don’t have A-10C.
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I would need to do some digging on the A10-A. Older versions may very well not be compatible. I know the Mig-29A can’t do it but the Mig-29SMT can. I also know the SU-27 is noted as not being able to do it, but the SU-27SM kind of can.
Maybe it is here: A-10A Flight Manual (TO 1A-10A-1) 1988 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
You can just say Mirage 2000’s, since all versions had an internal suite of ECM which includes jamming. This goes for Mirage 2000C, Mirage 2000D, and Mirage 2000-5F. The name of the suite is called ICMS (Integrated Countermeasures System)
You can include the Rafale in the list, it has SPECTRA suite.
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It may be just the A10C or retrofit A10A. Since we have the “early” version retrofit isn’t an option.
We also have the late variant, so retrofit could be an option for that one, if it did get it.
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I think the A-10A only has the external pod, no internal ECM. I cannot find even a retrofit with it. At least not yet. Maybe after work I can more hard digging. Not that it would matter with its insane hardpoint count.
I totally agree with you, the ECM should be completely included in the game.
Moreover it would be interesting to integrate the datalink for the planes that can use it
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Can’t wait for gaijin to claim that nothing Chinese has ecm, anything saying they do is fake, and they’ll only accept classified documents to prove that it’s true but they wont accept those documents because they’re classified.