EBRC Jaguar

its a bit worse than the dev at close range but much better at longer ranges compared to most auto cannons with 30 mm and 40 mm
you dont go bellow 100 mm pen at 2000 m 30 deg angle

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The kontakt 5 would actually work at this angles, also he proceded to one shot another 2 t series a few seconds later, not sure why are you trying to cherrypick so hard.

That isn’t the norm and the angle of ERA is largely irrelevant as Gaijin do not model it’s efficacy through projectile angles. They give it a nice uniform value despite it’s performance changing drastically if you do not hit it at that optimum angle.

K5 also only makes up the first 3 blocks

he is not flat he is hitting it at around 40º-30º (from the normal), so this kind of era would still affect to some degree the round, sure it game it is kinda overperforming as it should only offer the equivalent to the armor of the plates and they scale up to the maximun with the angles, but at does angles the era would be effective agaisnt an small round like this.

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at this angle the era was covering the hole autoloader, you can see how it actually damage it after the second era block was depleted, i personally allways aim below of the era with autocanons for this exact reason.

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I suppose to me it is frustrating when we see 25mm and 30mm autocannons just strip this ERA off Russian tanks but in game that is not the case.

It’s 2000s ERA it’s been proven to not be very good.

And Gaijin tries to curtail this through terrible CQC maps that try to dispense the average player from having to think about more than two angle at a time, one of which they came from.
The issue with the TOW-2B wasn’t fairness, it’s how god damn incapable of adapting the playerbase is. To this day, on Poland you can collect free kills by spawning NW and sniping across the lake. There is a 100% safe escape route to that spawn that lets me survive the SE spawn every game without fault, yet nobody takes it because they’d rather gamble that they’ll reach C first to get sniped on the ridge anyway.
The TOW-2B meant that when reversing in cover you’d have to turn a bit to either side, unfortunately, we don’t want to do that here.

I’d say it’s a matter of taste between the Jaguar and Freccia at this BR. Either you wanna rely on the canon to get kills, in which case Jaguar, or you feel lucky and run the Freccia with 10 Spikes. Game-wide, the Type 16 will forever stand on top by virtue of it’s BR.

By believing russian bias, you only view the game trough the lense of russian bias. Cliché as it may be.
Take the 2S38, everyone is hysterical about it, and yet it’s stats are standard for a LT at it’s BR, and so far no player has been found that actually overperforms with it. The reality of it is that it’s an excellent weapon kept in check by it’s godawful chassis.
Even if we take the fellow who’s video you linked, he is a consistent good player, he played a fair bit of 2S38, but he falls way short of his usual performance.

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Am i the only one bothered by the ammount of FCS componants there is in the turret of the EBRC ?? like im pretty sure a few of them arent even there IRL in the first place and secondly why are they all linked and all of them make your tank completly diseabled ? meawhile chinese MBT’s FCS being destroyed and having no repercution whatsoever …

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It’s great, but it’s so squishy any shot will disable your gun, atgm, stab and thermals.
You cannot be aggressive because a Russian 50 cal can ruin your vehicle
maps are too small and lack flanks for you to play this thing correctly.

Also makes me chuckle the gun is caseless it’s the main feature yet it is ejecting spent cases when shooting…ha ha

not true. aim at top of road wheels and see what happens. Sure, 40mm just like most other autocannons lack damage but it will destroy any tank from that angle.

Anytime I am unfortunate to come face to face with any tank they just delete me in seconds. If you survive the first shot likelihood your FCS and systems are destroyed and you just sit there waiting to die.

I feel this thing is the single least survivable vehicle in the game.

I have the vehicle and I know how it performs. If you get hit you’re 80% of the time good as dead.

I was just speaking of the gun. It’s certainly far from the best but still okay if I had to compare it against other autocannons, maybe except BMP-2Ms spewing APFSDS 30mm cuz for some reason it has super tight grouping while having the fastest fire rate on a relatively light platform somehow… go figure.

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I think in larger maps where the missiles were useable but most are city maps and the missiles either miss or are deterred by smoke. Leaving you with the gun which as you said is worse than a 30mm version from the fkin 80s!

just aim for their barrel and hope for the best in that case. it’s a coin flip, sometimes you clip their barrel and other times you just die. I use it as a back-up vehicle in mid-match since it can deal with both ground and (to some extent) low and slow air targets. I gotta say EBRC isn’t half bad when I’m using it that way.

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It is great for helis, early game when they rush the MMP shines in that regard.

It is great for helis, early game when they rush the MMP shines in that regard.

I’d rather keep the MMPs for MBTs, despite their low effectiveness in that regards, copters rushing into the battlefield are easy to take down with a couple Time fused HE rounds

I havent spaded it yet but the lead indicator always moves so much when anything turns slightly.
I know a single rocket exploding near me and i’m dead why risk it.

This is total BS any shot in the turret is near guaranteed to disable your gun/atgms

For some reason every panel within the Jaguars turret is part of the FCS system for a game where being able to take a hit and fire back is common occurrence this just isn’t possible for the Jaguar.

2S38 has the exact same systems excluding an ATGM one FCS module
PUMA has the bank of 3 in the armoured hull
HSTVL has 2 one in the hull and one in the turret.
CV90 has 2
NAMER has 2 in the hull.

The Jaguar has too many in the turret from a gameplay perspective it is a bad decision from Gaijin.

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They even modeled the GPS screen as and FCS module

Edit : might have been removed since last time I checked actually

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Tbh you will have time to kill the heli with proxi before it kills you
And now that heli have fully modeled internal modules it is much easier to disable a heli trying to rush

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