Leopard 1s and 2s are already in other nations.
Are you trying to be extremely obtuse?
Like, none of your logic makes sense, at all. You haven’t made a single actual point.
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It’s not all that interesting, it had a max range of 90km and a semi active radar homing guidance type.
Yes they did apparently. Unrelated, Japan also got one in ‘76.
That’s not a point, and we already have copy and paste across all nations with nobodies vehicles being off the table.
East German vehicles should be added, they are historical and long over due.
East Germany is part of the German tree and German heritage, nothing wrong with adding historically relevant vehicles to it.
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That isn’t a copied vehicle?
The Su-30MK isn’t in-game, how is that copy pasta?
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it would mean both USA and japan (via subtree) get a likely near identical copy of the plane
if you look at the thread the person is supporting gaijins addition of the su-30mkm (the su 30mk is a broader name for all export variants of the su30)
And? That’s… Sort of what happens when a country buys an aircraft. They then operate said aircraft.
Do you think that aircraft should be barred entirely from their home operators simply because an exported airframe was put into a different tree?
No… No, it most definitely isn’t. There are no “broader” scopes of any Su-30, as Su-30s are built per-contract with entirely different avionics and systems.
The Su-30MK is nothing more than a production legacy Su-30. If the MK were to be added, it would be a first and in no way would be copy pasta.
Japan should get the Su-30MKM, it’s the most advanced export Su-30 to-date.
? i know, im not saying copy pastes shouldnt be added
dont strawman me, I never said I was against copy paste man
? what, yes I know theyre built to a country’s specification, but theyre all called SU-30MK_, so SU-30MK can therefore be used to refer to all of the su-30MK_s
yes I agree, thats what the guy in that thread was talking about too
Lordy I’m lost, must have misread the comment. I’ll come back after a nap.
Uh, no. For the love of christ no.
why not? thats how broader categorizations work, all the SU-30MK_s are ultimately derivative of the same plane, its like saying humans arent vertebrates because “we’re too advanced to be classified so simply”
Probably not because they were not used as an official aircraft for them and was usual only used by Soviet pilots and I do not think Germany needs it.
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Well they can suck a fat one. UK has a swedish Gripen, Tornado’s shared with other nations and a Typhoon shared with other nations and now an F18 which is shared with other nations. Not to mention our 12.7 Tanks ( only 2 of them ) are a tech demo and an export not.
Its about time RU players loose a few matches by been swatted with there own missle in GRB for a change.
I am USSR main aaaaand I dont care about Su-30 in Japan. Only thing which I am upset is that we dont get TT variant of MiG-25.
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MiG-25s in East Germany were Soviet, not East German. The MiG-25PDs were operated by 787th IAP, replacing MiG-23Ms before themselves being replaced with MiG-29S. All flew with Soviet red star markings, not Luftstreitkräfte, and any German pilot that might have flown one would be seconded to 787th IAP.
Most other Foxbats in East Germany were reconnaissance versions of MiG-25, with a secondary bombing role. So not even the version that is being added for the event. But again, these were operated by Soviet units exclusively.
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Mig-29S is a an upgraded version of the Mig-29 that got the capebility to use the r-77
i dont think that east germany got those
iam normally doing this if i mean the plural of some aircraft Mig-29’s, because that way you can reduce confusion
especially with russian aircraft that often have the letter “s” in their designations
I was indeed using the Cyrillic S (С), so MiG-29S as in МиГ-29С. As far as I know this was the late Soviet upgrade to the 9-13 that supported wing drop tanks and other payload improvements over the initial 9-13 airframes. R-77 support was added later to these same aircraft around 1992 but 787th IAP had been flying 9-13s since 1989 with external tanks. By the time the Soviet Union fell and aircraft with capabilities based on MiG-29S were being exported as MiG-29SE, R-77 was a feature.
But like I said, 787th IAP was a Soviet unit, not an East German one. So was not suggesting East Germany had any flavour of “MiG-29S”