So i finally looped back and started grinding the US air tree after hitting 10.7 on the ground tree and having been stuck at 5.7 on the air tree for forever and have been having a hard time making use of the early CCRP on the jets. specifically the F-84F. when i aim at a tank on the ground and hit my keybind for either activate point of interest or activate sight stabilization (ive extensively tried both) it always sets my red square like 100ft short of the intended target or waaaay beyond the target. i have the same issue in the A-4E. it makes it near impossible to accurately place the impact point on the actual target. Im centering my reticle right on the intended target but no luck. Am i doing something wrong or is this just the way it is with the actual impact point being placed somewhat randomly. also this is my first post so im not sure if i selected the right category.
Hello!
Have a look at my article here in the wiki, where I try to explain the process as simple as possible. It’s originally intended for sim, but of course applies without any differences to all other game modes too…
Its a bit wonky in 3rd person, after having a quick look at @Schindibee s" guide I tried swapping to 1st person in test drive to set the point with the cockpit gunsight and found it FAR more accurate, I can only assume in 3rd person there is something that throws it off a bit (I noticed that the gun sight is swaying and bouncing from air turbulence in 1st person, but that is smoothed out in mouse aim, that could be the cause, while your pointer is on target the actual aircraft sight is being bounced off a bit and affecting the exact point you are marking).
I will also suggest you uses the CCRP in combination with dive bombing, I have found it can be quiet hard to get the SPI box right on the target from a low angle, it’s much easier to judge it’s correct placement from a steep top down angle.
I typically over fly the battle field at ~3000 to 4000m looking for targets, when I find one, I will dive on them and as soon as I get the SPI box in the right place hit the release button and pull back up allowing the CCRP to drop at the right point. I have found this allows very accurate hits while staying well out of range of radar SPAAGs. The only issue is the high alt drops take a bit of time to hit so you need to pick targets that look like they are going to stay put for a bit (also on the F-84 I found it’s best to double drop the 1000lbers and single drop the 2000lber the single 1000lb where a little inconsistent if the target moved or the SPI was a little off).
Hopefully that’s helpful to you.
i generally come over the battlefield a bit lower at 2.500 -3000m but ill try to keep my altitude a little higher but i struggle to see targets as it is. i spent maybe 3 straight hours in test flight earlier today trying to get it too work and was at the altitude you’ve described many times with no luck. it seems like regardless of the angle or altitude the red square is always way short or way long of the thing im aimed at. oddly though the small circle on the vertical line that pops up when using the ccrp is always dead center on what i was was aiming at, until i pull up of course then it moves. it feels like its centering that circle instead of the square. appreciate the comment/help!
i could always be missing something but according to your guide and everything else ive read i am already doing everything right but the red square is always very short or very long from the target i have my reticle centered on. ill keep fiddling with it. might just need to take some time away from it and reengage in a few days. appreciate the comment/help!
As I fly sim exclusively, can’t say anything about the red bracket, as we don’t see that except on the map window.
Maybe an important point / idea: Try to use the first method I described, with aiming for your intended impact point with the sight, mark, and then level off to drop.
I really don’t know how accurate it is to mark the impact point on the landscape manually (mouse?), but with the sight it’s quite accurate.
I’m rather convinced at this point the SPI is always placed off the cockpit sight, even in 3rd person. Because the 3rd person X-hair doesn’t wobble with the aircraft it creates a seemingly “random” placement location.
They also don’t seem to be properly aligned, the 3rd person x-hair seems to be a bit lower than the cockpit sight (at least on the A-4E).
Worth to mention, you can also place that point using map.
Quite handy if you are tossing bombs on enemy AA what is camping static.
ive considered trying this approach too
unfortunately it seems to do the same thing in 1st person cockpit view like you would use in sim. it always falls very short. ive tried simply leveling off and even climbing to toss the bomb but it appears to still be placing my impact point well short of the target i had my reticle originally centered on. the most infuriating thing is every once in a blue moon maybe 1 in 20 attempts it WILL place the impact point where its supposed to be but im never able to reliably recreate that. i would also like to add that in air rb when i use the switch mission target it cycles through and aims perfectly at the bases with no issue. this seems to be a specific problem to setting your own impact point on smaller targets like tanks in ground rb. its a shame because i love playing cas.
I use that a lot on early jets, and it is nice if team is spotting targets, but yes on 3rd person view usually takes couple clicks to get marker on right spot. Especially after bomb nerfs, It needs to be closer
i cant seem to get the points accurate enough to be effective that way but ill keep trying, i also added some example images of my original problem to the post
i added some screenshots if that helps
Yes it’s clearer now with the screenshots, thanks!
Hm, that looks indeed very strange and possibly should be reported as bug…
And you have this with different aircraft, yes? You mentioned F-84F and A-4, got anything more modern you could test (note: you can also test fly premiums)?
Yeah, that looks way off… This is how it works for me (it’s a bit clunky, I haven’t used it much lately and some of them are placed using free look):
yes after reading this reply i just went tried it with several premiums with different nations and had the same result. currently the f-84f is the highest ranked non premium aircraft i own. i broke a few months back and finally snagged the A-4E early and F-4S so i would have some cas aircraft for my ground lineups.
the issue im having definitely seems to still be present in your video but you seem to be able to finally lock it where you need it far easier than im managing currently.