new vid on Dunkerque then :D ?
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Dive :P.
It’s on the current dev build :).
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Some people may not have realised that after the correction of naval gun ballistics, the French 330mm AP is now standing among one of the best AP shells of comparable calibres in the game.
Pay special attention to penetration values at 10-15km:
French 330mm
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US 14"/45
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UK 15"/42 4crh:
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Japan 14"/45
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And last, German 28cm used as a reference in the bug report:
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Being able to outperform many 14" and 15" guns, that is truly remarkable performance.
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French bias ??? ;)
more faster shell than french bias
To put it in the context of (mostly) BR 7.0 guns: the thick green dash-dot-dash line is the new AP for dunkerque (I didn’t update any other gun)
Based on the graph from the wiki article about Kogo’s guns (I would have updated other graphs as well, most notably the gun accuracy one after the recent changes, but it takes ages to do it, and the dev server is changing some values around it almost every update, so you’ll have to wait for the final patch to get all the graphs up to speed)
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Indeed, it’s good to know. Certainly makes the ship at least viable against others at this Br.
Though it would have been nice to add in the mix the 12 inch AP shell of the Kronshtadt, which has better penetration values than any of those shells and the same amount of TNT equivalent as the 330mm of the Dunkerque. Truly a marvel of engineering and ballistics. You know, if it actually existed.
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I cannot express how glad I am for this change. Truth be told, I did not know much about French naval weapons to start with, but I have learned a lot from the research I have personally conducted on this topic.
I have many people to thank, including @Bucky_pork and @thefrenchtank for their significant contributions to the research process as well as the many people in this thread that provided sources and diagrams to look into. Also special thanks to @Kanone40 for providing the original shell sketch from John Jordan.
I also would like to thank the technical mods for their diligence in forwarding our findings towards the developers. As someone who has previously been a volunteer mod in a game forum before, I can relate to the amount of activity done behind the scenes to communicate feedback and it can be taxing at times.
Looking back, I am not only glad that the fixes we requested were implemented, but as @Arghail previously said, there’s knowledge to be gained from all this. As one who was primarily focused on American and British naval design history, it was fascinating to do more research into a navy I did not know much about.
And finally, I would like to thank the developers for being willing to correct their mistakes (albeit after quite a long time). Admittedly, I made the same error they did when I first analyzed the shell sketch that still had the armor piercing cap on. Everyone can make mistakes but what’s more important is being willing to correct them and learn from the whole experience.
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Well, as many others said, thanks a lot for going above and beyond for these ships. The timing couldn’t be better as well, with the Strasbourg being right around the corner. That kind of endeavor’s what the forum can offer best IMO.
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Let’s Hope the Strasbourg gets so love because after a few games, the SAP only shell is disappointing pen and damage wise. I have cruisers that feel like they do more damage.
Don’t get me started about the lack of willingness to implement the split turret design in case of a gun being damage. Right now, you lose 50% of your firepower. I find this ship extremely frustrating to play and feel this is a missed opportunity releasing it like that.
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Dont worry the strasbourg have already received the APCBC shell on the dev serv
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Well it’s not gonna magically fix all the problem these ships have… it’ll still suffer from easy ammo blowing up, excessive flooding and fragile turrets…
But, at least, now when you’ll shoot at something, you won’t feel like your throwing big nerf gun bullets at your target.
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That’s good to know thanks!
Dunkerque and Strasbourg w/buff, few decent naval strike aircraft, and fast destroyers for point grab. Not a bad time to be a baguette lover. And with both the Dunkerque sisters in game, we can wishfully expect the Richelieu or Algiere as the next French ships.
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Very much looking forward to Jean Bart as well, though the seemingly complete lack of VT shells for her AA armament is a little disappointing…
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The live server shell looks like this,
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so nothing changed from the dev.
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