Even though it’s not on topic, I’ll answer) Yamato will be hard to kill anyway, not only because it has the thickest armor, but also because its magazines are under excellent protection and are very deep + the armor is all at an excellent angle. Littorio won’t have it so sweet because it has a rate of fire of 1.3 shots per minute against Yamato’s 2 shots per minute. Yes, Littorio will have excellent penetration with armor-piercing shells, but this excellent penetration will only be at close range, and at long ranges this penetration will drop sharply.
Here are some diagrams. On some of them I marked in red where the magazines are. And as we know, if you blow up the magazines, it’s a “oneshot” for the ship.
So yes, the battleship Yamato will currently have the best magazine protection. After Yamato, only Nagato will have such excellent magazine armor. Many nations only envy such protection…
If the ship does not have normal protection in the cellars, then this is a quick death for the ship
Yay the dunkerque can pen yamato at close range 👍
( meawhile the yamato penning the dunkerque from the front to the back at 10 km)
also im getting back on the subject but dont gaijin know that the dunkerque was able to engage scharnhorst classes ?
And for proof the november 23 1939 the allies forces sended the Dunkerque and the HMS Hood hunting the Scharnhorst and the Gneisenau in response of the destruction of the HMS Rawalpindi. (as far as i know the french navy had some bad commanders but i think they where smart enought to know if their own gun where going to be enought or not for those kind of ship )
Right now in the game i higly doubt that the Dunkerque even stand a chance against a Scharnhorst even at long range with the actual shells we have ( the protection "could be enought " tho ).
so idk if gaijin just read the blueprints and make their own mind about the shell or if they at least did a minimum of reasearch about the ship and it’s history.( and it’s a pretty intersting one when it come to WW2 french BB )
To be fair, nothing short of an Amagi in the current meta stands much of a chance against the Scharnhorst. Until we get a better BR spread, we are stuck with a very compressed system that is going to favor the Scharnhorst, Amagi, and a couple of other ships.
My hope is, even if they don’t make changes to the Dunkerque before release, they will readjust some of these ships when they decompress everything.
During my extensive testing of Dunkerque on the test server with @Admiral_Bofors, we found that it was ok against certain 6.7s such as old US dreadnoughts. Besides that however - it really struggled against much more than that, the low pen combined with the short fuse time made it difficult to really do critical damage against ships with even a very weak turtleback.
However, when I was able to close the distance (or rather Bofors let me get closer) I found the guns did start to work. I was able to kill a Renown pretty handily and did manage to ammorack a Hood, albeit this was only when I was about 6-7km away from his spawn. Some other ships we tested included was Mutsu and a Kongo class battlecruiser - these due to their relatively poor armor I was able to hurt at medium range and did not have to close the distance as much, though handling the returning fire is a different story.
A ship that I was surprised Dunkerque held up against quite well was a Bayern class, although my frontal shell room was blown very early in the engagement - I was able to inflict decent crew loss on it, I was even able to kill it although this took a long time of just closing the distance and burning down it’s crew.
We also tested it against an Admiral Graf Spee for fun, I was able to kill 5 spawns before he eventually blew both of my shellrooms and my auxiliary ammo storage and rendered me a very oversized racing yacht.
I will probably write back here when she comes to the live server.
yeah i also notice an upgrade compared to the lorraine and the bretagne classes other than the 40 mm + pen , the dunkerque keeps a bit more pen at longer ranges so it’s still an upgrade but that upgrade should be better knowing it was able to dammage a scharnhorst (god know how hard to kill that thing was , 2000 shells fired in 2 hours and 20 torpedoes to sink her ,only 36 survivors )
but yeah i kinda tested it a bit too vs an Haruna with a friend that dont play much naval and i was able to do some good damage at 6 ,7 and maybe 8 km but other than that my crew was getting rekt pretty bad and pretty fast aswell as my ammo storage .
also good news the update is coming tomorow at 9 AM (if you are french )
God I do not wanna know how long and drawn out Dunkerque killing a Scharnhorst would be XD (The Scharn is blind and deaf and doesn’t know the Dunkerque exists)
hey i mean they used british 380 mm guns that are pretty close in therm of penetration to the dunkerque and same in HE filler . also like i said dunkerque was made to resist german 283 mm guns and even better with the Strasbourg that had more armor .
IRL the horst kinda was worried about the dunkerque and for proof both scharnhorst classes run away when the hood and the Dunkerque was on their traces ( they where probably also pretty scared of the hood amor )
but other than that i woul say with the two Dunkerque classes and full ammo that you would need 2 buisness day to sink her xD
I know this is promotional material but come on… It’s like the people who write this stuff don’t even care what they actually write as long as it’s positive. You don’t have anything to say about the guns beside a summary description ? And how does the Dunkerque has “excellent armor” ? It wasn’t the case in real life, it isn’t the case in the game, and it never was meant to in the first place… It would have made more sense to talk about its speed, for example.
the speed or the exellent balistic capabilities HAHEMM COUGHT COUGHT *
i played some game and so far the main problem i have is that the shell storage explode very easly and it make the dunkerque useless in the first good salvo she get shot by … i did 2 game i died 3 times 1 ammorack, 2 times because of the crew and because i had no shell remaining .
other than that the HE shell does some pretty good damage for an HE shell you can somehow make a holes into the belt of some BB and make them sink
Repulse’s dovbleg was somewhat similar with several errors and discrepancies that I couldn’t be bothered pointing out, I appreciate the CM’s work hard and there’s a lot on the plate for them with the updates but i’d be more than happy to write the devblogs for them or have another naval player write them in exchange for a more accurate and historically informative touch to the devblogs and promotional materials.
Wow, if only these things were true.
“Features: Powerful Main Guns!”
It seems like the naval content developers and the media team have very little communication…
So… for those who have played her, assuming anyone has, is Dunkerque worth getting?
I had like 10 battles so far. Still barely upgraded.
Dispersion seems pretty low, the guns feels accurate.
Armor is bad as expected. But if you turn around, and shoot backwards(reverse angling) it can take a lot of punishment even from Japanese 410mm guns.
First turrets gets knocked out completely.
The gun don’t do much damage, I don’t know if it’s lack of penetration or short fuse or both, but It doesn’t have that bite. Well not always.
I still hope we that we can get SAP changed to AP. That would improve the “damage situation”.
And most importantly it’s a beautiful looking ship👍🏻
@xPorkulusx by accident I send it as a replay to you.
You can check my previous comment.
I checked datamine, Dunkerque’s guns have notably reduced dispersion values compared to comparable weapons of similar caliber.
She has 0.25x0.39 “maxDeltaAngle” when the standard is 0.37x0.39 (or worse, generally tends to be worse).
So that’s neat.
Perdonally i really feels like it’s the lack pen ,because i we can still do some damage inside but i almost never ammoracked something even tho i damaged the magazine multiple times .
And for the armor same here do not try to go frontaly you will loose all your ammo in the first 2 salvo you take ,somehow i feel like sideway and backwar angled it resist pretty descently so . Just waiting for a new EC for test at long ranges .
not played it yet, but managed to kill some which were angled with a Lorraine, straight in the magazine / shell room
Tells you everything you need to know regarding the armor