It and the Rodney are both ships that need their flooding mechanics fixed badly.
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I’d rather they were fixed well 🤣
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Is there anything to be done for the first ammunition rack to separate it into compartments? EVERY TIME, They blow up the front rack and 1/2 of my turrets are useless for the rest of the game, unless you die or J out. The only way to do things with this ship is not to fall on Kronstadt/Scharnhorst. Focus the cruisers/destroyers, or bots to do something…
I enjoy play ships, but French battle cruisers… The only way to enjoy them is to play in custom battle.
I have reported it as a bug when the ship was still on the dev server - Dunkerque doesn’t use its ammunition - the answer was:
Up to developers’ discretion. Not a bug.
No news ever since.
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Why would you expect news when they’ve just told you it is at the dev’s discretion and not considered a bug??
After months of waiting, I have finally been able get some documents digitized from the Bundesarchiv that will further support the case made to reclassify the 330 mm OPF shell as APCBC.
These documents consist of firing and penetration tables of various shells including the 330 mm OPF Mle 1935 and the 283 mm Psgr. L/4.4 APCBC for comparison.
I am very much aware that “approximations of penetration values made by foreign nations to France” are not accepted according to a previous bug report and these are indeed German documents to begin with. However, I believe it is a fair source in this specific case as my primary goal is to not use the penetration data to increase the penetration to a specific value, but rather show that the shell classification should change based on the penetration data relative to other shells. Not to mention, this is not my only source to support this conclusion but rather a further addition to the many valid sources I already have presented.
First, let’s take a look at the table for the 283 mm Psgr. L/4.4 APCBC.
One notable value I’ll like to point out is that at 152 hm (or 15,200 m), the 283 mm shell can penetrate a 340 mm plate at 0 degrees. This is somewhat close to the in-game value of 376 mm at 15,000 m, but is not really of that much importance as we are focusing on comparing to the same standard used to plot the data for these tables.
Now let’s look at the table for the 330 mm OPF Mle 1935 shell.
At a distance of 151 hm (or 15,100 m), this shell can go through a 450 mm plate at 0 degrees. It’s not even close, the penetration is significantly higher than that of the 283 mm shell at pretty close the same range. This is a far cry from the in-game value of 348 mm at 15,000 m, which is still less than the 283 mm round from Scharnhorst.
Now I am aware that there’s some ongoing issue with a lot of shells overperforming in game from what I’ve heard but none of that should nullify the evidence presented here. It is clear that even the Germans themselves considered the 330 mm shell to have far superior penetration to their 283 mm yet in game the 330 mm round has less pen pretty much all across the board compared to the 283 mm due to being classified as SAPCBC. It may not be enough evidence on its own to prove that the penetration should be buffed to 450 mm at 15,000 m due to the differences in standards to measure shell penetration, but it sure does make a really strong case that based on the table comparisons we made that use the same standard, the 330 mm OPF Mle 1935 shell should be reclassified as APCBC.
And what wouldn’t be a better time to make these fixes right when Strasbourg is about to be obtainable as an event ship?
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So gaijin basicly nerfed the shell by a 100 mm of pen for long ranges shot 💀.
But honestly that nice they cant deny those numbers especially when they come from the “ennemy” .
Also do you think you will do a new bug report ?
I may just append the new findings to the existing bug report if that’s necessary, as it still remains relevant to the original issue at hand.
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I will amend the report, but only as a special occasion, and only this time.
Next time, please create another report as amending already existing reports is unsustainable.
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Amazing research :) Well done 👏
Would you be so kind, and amend your wiki article at Myth or fact? The 330 mm OPf Mle 1935 shell was a Semi-Armor-Piercing round with the new information?
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Damn, this armor penetration value significantly different from what we have game, bravo
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So SAP changed to AP
but well, as expected, penetration is not that much bigger.
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still a big win
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A 15% increase is a pretty big deal in my opinion. Nice job to all who helped with this change. It took a lot of work.
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Yes congrats to Admiral_Bofors for his work
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Took an act of divine inspiration is arguably a more apt description from my watching this thread.
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Now gaijin need to change the fact that Dunkerque could shot more than 20 KM … !
might be to much to ask
Wow I can’t believe it. Honestly, I didn’t expect penetration to be more than this, but it’s a solid improvement.
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I’m so happy that everyone’s effort have paid off, and especially @Admiral_Bofors’.
Thank you so much for your hard work !
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