And how the fuck WT Panther 2 or Tiger 105 can be considered accurate if Panther 2 recieves turret, gun it was never supposed to go with, with Tiger 105, turret literally being too cramped to fit coincidence rangefinder and gun breach.
Not even mentioning Ho-Ri design in game being the non-official one drawn by some other guy and not the actual engineers that worked for it.
I could care less about the KV-4. I dont care about War gaming or their games. I dont care about how precise you think their models are. Perhabs you are right that the KV-4 in war gaming is not fake, I might have been wrong in saying that
I want you to pay attention to these words specifically:
I wont hold my breath though.
My discussion with the other guy was about his statements about what he called fake tanks in war thunder.
I never said that they were. Your skull is so thick.
Ok buddy and R2y2 are certainly also fake. That has nothing to with the ingame or real life panther 2. Go talk with someone else about this. I dont care
You wouldnt be making half a post about it and then defeding all other designs failing to do a 2 sec search then no? If you ever didnt you wouldnt even be responding to me to begin with
Yours is thicker, I literally said both cant be trusted with modeling design only tanks yet you need an open skull just to recieve a message.
And logically, if both cant be trusted with it, maybe just KV-4 isnt a problem, but all prementioned tanks are? In fact WoT has whole TTs full of fake stuff, dont mind non-USSR TT suspiciously looking 90% USSR tanks like.
Cries about KV-4, gets butthurt about german’s fakes, defends them, gets called out, suddenly doesnt care
Oh and Tiger 2 SLA is also fake, design sure it existed but the actual engine was only put to Jagtiger.
I really dont know what you are trying to convey here.
Please show a quote of this ;)
War thunder ingame Panther 2 is fake, Tiger 2 105 is fake. Some people say that the ostwind 2 is fake i believe, i dont know if it is. You say that the Tiger 2 SLA is fake, if you have any source please feel free to share with me.
I think you might have confused me with a german main or something? I dont have any special relationshop with that tech tree or whatever.
I prefer the Soviet tech tree, they have the coolest ground vehicles.
You are wrong about pretty much everything. One maus was fully completed by the Germans. The t29 t30 and t34 were not the same tank with separate prototypes being built for each. The t95/t28 were the same vehicle, an inaccuracy on war thunders part, it is not rotting away in a desert because it was found, restored, and now resides in the us armor and calvary collection.
KV-7 at 4.0 turned low tier into a slaughterhouse. Inpenetrable frontal armor. No frontal weakspots in comparision to KV-1 tanks. And lol double barrel, its impossible to stop a team of those. Fully stacked teams clubbing most of the map types. Only flanking works…on these few maps which offer open flanks.
KV-7 is not overpowered by any means, it’s just that now after event ended many experienced players decided to try it out and moved to 4.0 to club newbies.
It has same mobility as KV-1E/B variants, much weaker armor than them, no turret rotation and a bit better gun, you can find on for example KV-1S.
It really isn’t OP, take your time to look at it’s armor in game and you will find plenty of weakspots
KV1 are easy pens through turret ring or turret endges not covered by this bulged armor. KV-7 has no frontal weakpot… nothing, you can just try to hit the barrels. You need to hit the side and you know how most maps are. There are teams fully stacked og KV7 and they just roll through with their 2 battel perma fire and inpenetrable front.
With this armor + double guns ist 5.0 material.
I mean, just look at the matches right now. Total and utter steamrolling. Just had one with 13 kills.
I hate to disagree with you, but I died from frontal penetrations quite a few times and the guns are very underpowered. Just shoot at the driver hatch, the Box right in the middle of the upper frontal Plate. The gun mantlet itself is also a weakspot. With a good enough gun, just shoot the flat frontal armor flanking the gun on each side.
Except both KV-1E and B which i mentioned have additional armor on the turret so this weakspot isn’t there on them either. It’s even worse, since they can actually angle. You shouldn’t be comparing it to the L-11 variant which is just a bad.
Except it does… and plenty of them on top of that. For german 75mm gun basically a whole thing is a weakspot, you need to actively try to non pen it in order to do so.
And as for guns with approx 100 pen like USSR 76mm F-34 or American 75mm M3 you have 2 very clear weakspots just on the front.
1st one - driver’s hatch, nearly guaranteed one shot if hit properly.
2nd one - lower part of both sides of the superstructure not covered by additional armor plates, just above tracks. After hitting KV-7 there, you are guaranteed to take out at least half of it’s crew and you can even ammorack it if you are lucky.
3rd additional “weakspot” - just shoot it’s damn tracks. It has terrible gun arc and gun traverse, without tracks it’s basically harmless
One of the wildest takes i have ever seen on this forum.
Depends on the gun. Panzer 4 can penetrate the MG port as well as the gun optics right of the barrels. But all with weaker firepower are shafted vs. these KV7 teams.