Parasitic Drag INCREASES for PL-12 Carriers due to Anti-Radiation-Missiles?

It seems that Gaijin tries to give nearly all Large ARMs parasitic drag on Racks(Drag added to the plane) with 0.025kgf.
More Exactly, AGM-88,Kh-31s(YJ-91s),Kh-27,CM-102,LD-10,AS-37 all with 0.025kgf,
and AGM-122(kind of sindwinder),ALARM with 0.018kgf.
I don’t want to discuss the drag coefficient and diameter too deep there.

The question is the LD-10, which is basically A COPY of SD-10(PL-12) with different warhead, and the changes affects all SD-10/PL-12 Carriers.

In LIVE SERVER the drag for SD-10/PL-12/PL-12A is 0.018kgf, similar to other Fox-3s.
But in DEV SERVER it get nerved to 0.025kgf for NO REASON.
I don’t see an 8-inch missile comparable to a Phoenix in drag.(8-inch Sparrows and AAM-4s also 0.018kgf drag)
More to say, PL-12A with different mass and game-code(I mean GNSS) also get drag change. I just don’t get the reason of it.


Is it just a mistake of Copy-Paste or another NERF to Chinese top-tier?

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⬆️Dev Server 2.56.0.35, J-10A with 6 PL-12s, 0.025kgf drag each(same 0.025kgf with PL-12As)
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⬆️Live Server 2.55.1.157, J-10A with 6 PL-12s, 0.018kgf drag each

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⬆️Live Server 2.55.1.157, F-2A with 4 AAM-4, 0.018kgf drag each
For Comparison, 8-inch AAM-4 also has 0.018kgf drag to vehicle both Live and Devs.

I have to mention again that, Only PL-12 Carriers(J-10,J-11B,J-15,JF-17 and JH7A2) are to receive Nerfed Parasitic Drag just for carrying missiles. The change kills topspeeds and performance of Chinese Jets, not the PL-12 itself.

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Russian bias

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What the hell? Like PL-12 wasnt bad enough already

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Because PL12 is much better than r77

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That is parasite drag, for when it is on your aircraft

It does not mean the missile itself was changed

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It is still a nerf to Chinese aircraft in air to air

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yeah I know this. so I generalized it to “Drag Change” not the missile performance.
Meaning that the J-10s already stuck at Mach 1 will suffer more drag than before when carrying lots of missiles.

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到底是bug还是数据更改给说清楚

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They have already ruined the PL-12, and now they want to ruin all the aircraft that use the PL-12.

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是测试服拆包的数据发现对地对海弹药都被加了挂载阻力,pl12pl12aaim9c是唯三被加了挂架阻力的空空导弹。有人说是程序员查询的时候加了(都有换皮反辐射导弹),具体情况也不知道。

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They ruined maneuverability for the PL-12, now they are reverting the minor range increase it got by slowing the launch aircraft.

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Even the small range boost the PL-12 received is being undone, and on top of that, its maneuverability has already been wrecked — all by simply slowing the launching aircraft

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我们需要一个合理的解释,这究竟是bug还是基于某份资料得出的结论?

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Just take 1 minute less fuel and you’ll make up for the nerf 100x

Maybe they’ll buff the WS-10B? Idk 🤷‍♀️

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It’s not about fuel my friend.
The nerf is Kinda Discrimination for PL-12s.
8-inch Diameter and Racks can’t accout for the additional 7 thousandth parasitic drag.

:)FoR Your Reference:
R-40s on Mig25 are also 0.018kgf
AGAIN Diameters and Rack Size doesn’t really matter, it’s just a BIASED nerf of no where

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You’re just twisting the argument and replacing one variable with another. That’s a logical fallacy.
Drag from external missiles depends on shape and surface area, not weight. Less fuel reduces mass, which helps acceleration and turning, but it doesn’t change the added aerodynamic penalty. Even with near-empty tanks, the missiles still create the same drag. So you can’t ‘cancel’ that loss—you only shift the trade-off to shorter range and endurance.

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No idea mate.
Most Air-to-Air Missiles has the same 0.018kgf drag to the vehicle.
PL-12 is the only exception among Modern FOX-3s in this Dev Server.

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中顶已经这么弱还削,再削不玩了

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its a difference of not even 100 grams of force for a full missile load
it wont be noticable at all, even if you dont reduce your fuel

even if you were to carry 20 Pl-12’s the diffference would only be 140 grams of force

just for reference this is a 100 gram weight
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