Downgrade XP-50

[rocketV2]

Suis-je le seul à penser que l’XP-50 ruine l’expérience de jeu? Pensez-vous aussi qu’il est nécessaire de d’augmenter d’au moins 1 le BR de cet avion qui en plus d’être affreusement moche est en Br 3.7 avec des performances de Br 5.0 et plus?

Cet avion, c’est un pay to win indécent. Perso, je n’ai rien contre les avions premium, moi même espérant jouer le TA-154. Mais ce XP-50 est d’un Br inférieur à ce dernier tout en étant infiniment plus performant et profitant d’une altitude de départ supplémentaire.

Le XP-50 n’est pas un concurrent loyal. C’est un poison qui ruine les Br autour de 4.0. Si tout à l’heure j’ai dit: “espérant jouer le TA-154” c’est que je ne peux pas jouer ce dernier correctement à cause du XP-50. En montant en altitude, je me retrouve plus lent, plus bas que le XP-50 tout en ayant un avion purement boom and zoom qui ne peut pas rivaliser avec cet avion.

En bref, il m’est impossible de rivaliser de quelque manière que ce soit avec cet avion.
Cet avion est tout simplement cheaté, parfois on en retrouve 10 dans une partie, c’est le cancer absolu. Aucun avion ne permet de lutter contre ce dernier. De plus, il est extrêmement moche donc aucun autre intérêt de l’acheter en dehors du pay to win.

Donc, si vous aussi trouvez que le XP-50 est abusé, faisons en sorte qu’il soit réajusté. N’hésitez pas à discuter de comment obtenir ce réajustement si vous partagez cet avis (du moins pour le XP-50). Plus il sera partagé, plus cela sera pris au sérieux par le dev’s.

Cet avion, c’est un cancer qui doit être réajusté. Idem pour le TA-154, il devrait partir d’un peu plus haut ou bien on supprime l’altitude du XP-50. Dans tout les cas, il est nécessaire de réajuster certaines choses sans quoi le jeu ne cessera de sombrer dans l’ennui.

Si les dev’s refusent de réajuster le XP-50, augmentons au moins les capacités des avions premiums comparables. Dans aucun monde censé un avion ayant un Br plus élevé devrait se faire pourrir la vie par un avion pay to win au Br décadent.

[DanyLopez]

According to what I read, the XP50 has air spawn, if so then they should remove it so that it is balanced like all fighters. In my experience in simulator it is not so exaggeratedly good and I think it has a good BR, the one that seems ridiculous to me is the XP55 (in SB 3.0), it turns and maintains turns at low speed even better than the Ki and P51.

[shangxiang]

Je ne joue pas l’appareil, mais n’hésite pas, à la prochaine annonce d’ajustement de BR de traduire ton argumentaire et de le poster en suggestion sur le topic qui sera ouvert (si le XP-50 n’est pas dans la liste des modif évidemment).

[Uncle_J_Wick]

@rocketV2

Am I the only one who thinks that the XP-50 ruins the gaming experience? Do you also think that it is necessary to increase by at least 1 the BR of this aircraft which in addition to being terribly ugly is in Br 3.7 with performances of Br 5.0 and more?

This plane is an indecent pay-to-win. Personally, I have nothing against premium aircraft, I myself hope to play the TA-154. But this XP-50 is a Br lower than the latter while being infinitely more efficient and benefiting from an additional starting altitude.

The XP-50 is not a fair competitor. It’s a poison that ruins Br around 4.0. If earlier I said: “hoping to play the TA-154” it’s because I can’t play the latter properly because of the XP-50. As I go up in altitude, I find myself slower, lower than the XP-50 while having a pure boom and zoom aircraft that can’t compete with this aircraft.

In short, it is impossible for me to compete in any way with this aircraft.
This plane is simply cheated, sometimes you find 10 of them in a game, it’s absolute cancer. There are no planes to fight against it. In addition, it is extremely ugly so there is no other point in buying it outside of pay to win.

So, if you too find that the XP-50 is abused, let’s make sure that it is readjusted. Feel free to discuss how to get this readjustment if you share this opinion (at least for the XP-50). The more it is shared, the more seriously it will be taken by the dev’s.

This plane is a cancer that needs to be readjusted. Same for the TA-154, it should start from a little higher or we remove the altitude of the XP-50. In any case, it is necessary to readjust certain things otherwise the game will continue to sink into boredom.

If the devs refuse to readjust the XP-50, let’s at least increase the capabilities of comparable Premium aircraft. In no sensible world should an aircraft with a higher Br be ruined by a pay-to-win aircraft with a decadent Br.

Use a translator if you need.

I saw your post just by accident - there is a lot of things to unpack in it:

1. Nobody from the dev team will read a rant thread about XP-50s. Your only chance to influence the BR of an aircraft is to post a your concerns in the BR change discussion rounds, which happen 2-3 times a year.
   A short statement why it needs a BR increase etc. - then it depends on the number of players which support (by adding a like) your suggestion in this specific thread if they even think about.

2. The XP-50 is in Air AB and Air SB at 4.0. No idea where your 3.7 comes from.

3. Have in mind that gaijin is very reluctant to increase BRs of premium props - imho we have just a few aircraft which saw something like that (Ju 288, A2D-1) and gaijin won’t take away the air spawn in Air RB as this the main selling point.

4. There is no such thing as P2W for aircraft - as the random team composition prevents this very effective. I agree that getting kills in it is rather easy vs inexperienced pilots, but the only “real” P2W aspect of the game is to buy crew XP with GE which gives you a significant advantage in 1 vs 1s with very high g-loads.

5. If you consider playing Air RB you will find out that XP-50s are rather easy kills for any experienced pilot - if he is able to exploit the 3 main weaknesses of XP-50s:

• Their pilots.

• Their air frame.

• Their teams.

  It boils down that the majority (>90%) of their pilots have no clue what they & their plane can do - and what it can’t do. So it is rather easy to force them into a high speed fight and g-lock their pilots, or to make them very slow and outturn them or use their massive high speed compression near their way too low rip speed to your advantage. US teams are by far the worst teams around 4.0, so your chances to win actually increases the more XP-50s you face.

6. But as long as you play Air Arcade Battles you can’t use the air frame and skill drawbacks - especially after i watched a replay of you. No offense, but stall climbing into much higher and way faster enemy fighters is planned suicide.

7. The Ta-154 is not really a good aircraft and outside the way better roll and less high speed compression you have just a higher dive speed. So reversing them in a high speed fight is possible, but Air AB limits your actual abilities thanks to the Arcade flight model.

Have a good one!

[shangxiang]

At the base, he post in national community with the tag “French”, your

@Uncle J Wick@live

Use a translator if you need.

is a little inapropriate…

@rocketV2 , en gros je résume:
Si tu joue en air RB, le XP-50 n’est pas si bon et que tu peut t’appuyer sur les faiblesses de l’appareil pour le descendre (en premier lieu le fait que beaucoup ne savent pas le jouer correctement).

[Uncle_J_Wick]

@shangxiang

At the base, he post in national community with the tag “French”, your

@Uncle J Wick@live

Use a translator if you need.

is a little inapropriate…

Not sure where or what your problem is. A forum is there to help and support players with similar interests.

Using auto translate are two clicks and was given as friendly advice. So i have zero clue what you assess as “a little inappropriate”…

@shangxiang

if you play in RB air, the XP-50 is not so good and you can rely on the weaknesses of the device to take it down (first of all the fact that many don’t know how to play it correctly).

I also see no need for you to summarize my posts.

The French pilots i meet frequently in Air RB are usually among the best pilots in wt - therefore i have zero clue why exactly you felt the need to watering down a rather detailed reply - written by a pilot who can’t remember getting killed by an XP-50, despite fighting and killing them every day…

[shangxiang]

Si tu veut utiliser un traducteur, libre à toi, mais ne vient pas me sortir “on est sur un forum, ça peut aider d’autres personnes”, oui ça peut intéresser d’autres personnes, mais comme il y a un tag FRANCAIS sur le topic, on est pas dans la section internationale et on va parler majoritairement français ici, comme indiqué par le tag.

Donc traduit toi ça si tu veut dans ton coin, mais ne vient pas demander à l’auteur du topic de causer anglais alors qu’il n’est pas dans la section internationale et qu’il a indiqué la langue dans laquelle il souhaite s’exprimer.