For me this is the main problem of the game, that you depend on the explosive charge to kill the enemy tank, when in reality it did not make a big difference between the APHE and the Full AP, for some reason the British and partly Americans did not use the APHE in WW2, and in fact after WW2 the APHE was almost only used by the Soviets and a few other countries, since it was an obsolete type of bullet, and other countries were already focusing on developing Full AP bullets. But hey, That is the mistake that Gaijin made and he can only continue forward without changing anything.
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Ahh yes, a keyword - “soviet”
Of course glorious soviet design is far superior than anything from the West!
But in all seriousness I wont give a damn as long as I can one shoot things nor should you, Its a ton of work vs one lil shell to add, so its kinda obvious whats more possible to be implemented, too bad that some nations underpefrom from it tho.
Solid AP is fun but only sometimes… especially bigger shells, thats why I also grinded france - For the 7.7 solid shots, these things actually work like a charm
Soooo gaijinnnn gib M82 w+170g tnt #2
I am not against them implementing that ammunition, in fact it should be the one used by the M36, since that vehicle entered combat before the M26 arrived, the M82 with more speed and less explosive and the T33, that is why the M36 AP ammunition has the M77.
Yeah, I know. I meant that at this point you should’t be bothered with what delivers damage as long as it delivers damage :)
Whats the basis for Soviet tanks needing 3 APHE shells but US 90mm only needing one? The velocity isn’t the only difference between M82 variants. Gaijin could use the large filler variant for the stock shell.
Here’s the bug report listing the information and sources.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/aHnnMUIxZiIk
@Smin1080p @Stone_WT @Pacifica
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Gaijin modified the formular. That is a fact and even stated by gaijin you are just talking out of your ass and showing that you are not knowledgable of the topics you are talking about
Never seen anyone complain about NOT having to grind out more shells just to get your best round.
We have to grind through intentionally nerfed solid shot, instead of getting an early APHE like other nations would get.
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Is it not a tier 1 mod for the likes of the M26 and above?
It’s not stock and free like Soviet and German tanks.
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Neither are the best AP shells for them either?
Are you saying change the US stock rounds to APHE?
They are for the Germans. They get their best round stock and free. Or at least they get one of their APHE rounds stock and free.
No, I’m saying add the early M82 with large filler as a stock round.
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Not a tank nerd and I have some questions, Do the T34 and M103 never used APHE/APCBC?
No, they only used solid AP. The T34 had an APCBC and an APBC.
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I doubt that anyone would mind grinding one extra module for the M82 Late if the M82 Early would be a stock round. If not, even 2 extra modules,
huh, even gaijin should be happy about it ~you know~ some more grind.
This Early shell would make the US 90mm so much more fun.
It’s a very simple thing to add, yet theres so much hustle around it for some reasons…
M82 Early
weight: 10.936 kg (24.11 lbs.)
Muzzle Velocity: 813 m/s
Explosive type: Explosive D
Explosive mass: 199.5806 g (0.44 lbs.) (TNT equivalent: 195g) <<<<< THIS IS A BIG DEAL*
Classification: Fookin Badass APHE
*(anything with ≥ 170g TNT overpressures tanks after pen)
So yeah, I don’t see any resons why this shouldn’t be added, it should already be fowarded as a suggestion
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Does this mean that all versions except the best variant of a shell should be removed from tanks? Should all BR-741 rounds except the best one be removed from the IS-2, for instance? Does the Tiger need the Pzgr 39 stock if the Pzgr is another shell it has? If the IS-2 can get three BR-471 rounds each performing differently, why not the same for tanks with the American 90mm? Just because there is no need does not mean it should not be done, having variety in available ammunition can only be a good thing. If someone does not want to use it, they can simply not take any of it.
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Remind me again: the M82 shell with large filler is supposed to be lighter than the one with smaller filler, is that correct?
Aha, so it’s not necessary for US 90 mm tanks to get two different shells with much different explosive filler (140g vs 200g), one of which can overpressure and the other can’t, but it DEFINITELY WAS necessary to give Tiger 1s two different shells, which are exactly that???
Talk about double standards. T-54s also running around with 3!!! different APHE shells and T-55 using time traveling APFSDS and APHE combo…
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