Does the F111F/C deserve to be 11.7 GRB

AV-8B+ is better in every way

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I think the spawn speed for most aircraft needs a bit of an increase anyway.

Especially when you get map edged teleported. In Air Sim at least. it can be quite dangerous because in something like a full laden Buc or Tornado. you drop from the sky like a rock because you’ve returned to about 300kts, even if you were going over mach 1 before

Yeah, they’d have to change the spawned wing sweep angle as well, I remember in the old days you could fairly easily rip your wings pretty much immediately when you spawned at near mach 1.

Haha yep. That wouldnt be good

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I hope it can obtain AGM142 and AGM130 in the game. Many countries in the game lack corresponding air to ground missiles, and gaijin should add attack aircraft carrying different types of air to ground missiles for each country

Man AGM-130 would be busted lmao

Now all bombs and missiles can be destroyed by missiles, which may be a balance, but only one 11.7BR Russian truck can intercept ammunition well XD

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Key word close enough for MAWS to work. Because the MAWS has a narrow cone of detection, missile outside of it will go undetected. If it goes within the cone of detection, it’s too late. the MAWS on the F111 is situational and unsuitable for the threats on the ground and on their air.

The reason why I say this is because though having a MAW is good but having a maw without 360 full coverage is not. It is not a selling point nor a feature to brag about.


Yes any agms can be shot down but how come the KH29/38 is the hardest to intercept? of all the agms, those two are the deadliest. It is deadly because it’s speed is extremely fast which can be used much further.

The whole point of this argument is the level of difficulty required to play the two. You can play it from a farther distance and still use it to great affect. It doesn’t require any skill for them to be used. You cannot do that with the mavericks. Like you said it is only effective if used a few kilometers. The biggest disadvantage is that you need to find a target and launch all within seconds. All while looking out for threats. IR spaa systems will be your biggest threat because they can lock an fire even after you get into cover.

Never said it was unusable but I did say it’s situational and it is because of the risks that are involved which makes it so


If you use the tree line, you become an easy target for ir spaa systems. All it takes it to get a a single lock.

This doesn’t mean you catch someone by surprise. It helps but good hearing and situational awareness is something not to be underestimated. Search radars can still get pings from you even while hiding behind trees.


The reason why I said it takes a long time to reach super sonic is because the acceleration the f111 is abysmal. and paired with the terrible flight model, you will be needing to either fly to gain speed. Even when releasing your mavericks from a few km away, you need that speed to assist the mavericks in hitting it’s target.

What makes the Harrier’s flight performance good even though it’s sub sonic, is that it can maintain it’s speed very well along with good acceleration.

Your first run can go well since you’re at a good speed but the moment you take a uturn, it will lose majority of it’s speed. Gaining back that speed won’t be an issue if you have the distance to do so but that is not the case. By the time you reach even a decent speed, you’ll already be past the battlefield.


At this point we are kicking a dead horse. We have a fundamental disagreement on the capabilities of the F111 in comparison to other vehicles at a lesser BR.