It was enough.
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Count Trackula already did, but youre just being a contrarian. Youre insane if you think a fully unfinished tank is somehow a gottem
Brb gonna go find an unfinished T90M and post how it doesnt actually come with spall liners
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Whatre you even saying
You seem to have a problem understanding your own definitions then. The fact that you can’t see how anti-spall layers integrated into ballistic glass shows the mechanics can work in a way you refuse to accept says everything it needs to about your delusions.
Notice how a spall layer between two spalling surfaces stops spalling in ballistic glass application? Notice the integral armor study and developments that have spall liners incorporated in the composite armor composition? Yet you insist spall liners must be the final layer (which has been disproven multiple instances and applications here.)
"Anti-spall window film is a protective interlayer component for glass manufacturers ideal for diverse security window and ballistic glass applications. As an anti-intrusion product, anti-spall film properties help prevent fragmentation if a projectile hits a glass barrier. Some typical applications for this film include aerospace glass products, school security windows, and high-security automotive windows.
The interlayer laminate film can provide enhanced protection from injuries or harm from flying glass fragments. It’s a PET-based film that we can provide in several different construction types to match your applications. It can increase response time, fortify weak entry points against intruders, and retain shattered glass fragments longer. Convenient and cost-effective, anti-spall window film is a straightforward, quick solution for window manufacturers to enhance security for facilities, vehicles, and other applications."
You’ve falsely implied that any layers in integral composite armor can only serve for adhesion/delamination purposes. The Army Research Lab study blows that claim out of the water. As does spall lining in ballistic glass applications. Ballistic glass, literally meant to stop incoming projectiles and treated to reduce spalling. In a method you claim is impossible. You can’t be reasoned with.
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Took me 6 seconds
“The previous M1 and M1A1 Abrams tanks used composite armor similar to the British Chobham with multiple layers of steel and ceramics at the front of the hull and turret. However armor on the M1A2 featured added layers of depleted uranium mesh. This offered significant protection against all known anti-tank weapons, however overall weight of the tank increased. At the time of its introduction protection of the M1A2 Abrams tank was considered as one of the best in the world. All active service M1A1 tanks have been retrofitted with depleted uranium armor. M1A2 tanks supplied to Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and Taiwan have downgraded armor without depleted uranium layers. Ammunition for the main gun is stored in the turret bustle, fitted with blow-out panels. Interior is lined with Kevlar liner for protection against spalling. The M1A2 Abrams can be fitted with explosive reactive armor blocks. Some M1A2 tanks were equipped with missile countermeasure devices, intended to detect and jam guidance of the laser-guided missiles.”
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Glass, not metal. Show me a source that replaces the glass with metal. There’s a reason you’re using glass liners and I think I know why.
If you don’t join the GHPC discord and continue there, then I’ll conclude you’re not interested and stop commenting with you because you’re clogging up the whole thread.
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You cut and pasted from a car body armorer’s web site and think that is at all applicable to tanks in general and the the M1 in particular?
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Its like you didnt even read my post which you didnt, I already mentioned website sources and citations which they lack. This is confirmation bias
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I think this is an old enough example to be declassified. British Ironclads using wood backing on armor plate to:
- Keep it together
- Reduce iron spall into the ship
If that was the claim you were reffering to
Source being whatever material Drachinifel recently used for a recent ship armor vid i guess.
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You cant be serious. This journalism article knows more nuiances about abrams tanks than 90% of WT players, and its uncredible…Its a secondary source
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And the wood is on the inside, I’m familiar with ships, I also like ships.
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Maybe you should have taken longer. That is referring to the main armor array packages. Not interior spall liners.
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Yes the wood is on the inside acting as a spall liner and as a backing material
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Are you illiterate? It literally says its integrated. I get it now, russians just cant understand that spall liners can be integral in armor, and must be hung with canvas clips inside like skirts
I get it man, its real innovative stuff
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Ok I know this is a separate convo but I remember something weird with ships and iirc it can be the opposite since wood splinters and certain iron compositions doesn’t. But that’s for another day. I mean I dont disagree with you? Spall liners back up the backing plate
I also advise you to join the GHPC discord, there’s some people there you can talk to. Also its a good game so theres that
In this case the backing plate is the “spall liner”. One of your claims being a backing material isn’t a spall liner, but it sure as hell can be
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You’ve already ignored the composite armor study. The fact that you can’t accept that an even more brittle and shatter-prone material can be prevented from spalling by a spall layer between the surfaces proves you don’t understand the mechanics or physics behind this.
There have been many examples and references provided. Your denial doesn’t refute them.
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You seem to misunderstand me, I’m saying there is no backing layer (spall liner), go through the photos I posted.
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I didn’t comment on that, and im not here to judge wether a vehicle has a spall liner based on some images
Edit: i commented on backing layer not being a spall liner
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