This has nothing to do with the M1. Its a paper on researching an experimental composite armor for vehicles that never went into production.
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Even the second page says that this is not a official government doc and doesn’t represent the army.
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Read the references and footnotes section. Plenty of references to the Abrams program. In this document, on the military website, from the ARMY RESEARCH LABORATORY, references many Army programs…and you claim its not an official government document? You are truly delusional.:
Look again, search ‘Abrams’ and see what pops up in the footnotes.
Speaking of being dishonest, how can you claim this…:
“The findings in this report are not to be construed as an official
Department of the Army position unless so designated by other
authorized documents.”
…some how means it is not an official document? It only said that it can’t be considered an official position, which it would be hard to do as a research paper and not a mission statement, order, or request.
…and who said otherwise?
This is the BALLISTIC GLASS you seem to have ignored:
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I do find it amusing you guys completely ignored the two PDFs that explicitly refer to the XM-1 as having a spall liner.
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I didnt ignore it, you just ignored what I said instead
“my DTIC doc doesn’t contradict your source as my source is talking about production Abrams (document date is 1996), yours is talking about the XM1.” from a previous comment
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The XM-1 was a prototype. Not the production M1s.
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So let me get this straight, you’re arguing that the XM-1 being the prototype translates to the production model not incorporating the features that they insist be on the prototype?
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I forgot about that link, sorry. But also wtf does this have to do with the abrams? This is anti spall film for glass? Glass… Metal is not glass, it doesnt shatter into a million pieces requiring a film holding it together
Second page of your document
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Go read “King of the Killing Zone.”
https://www.amazon.com/King-Killing-Zone-Story-Americas/dp/0393332934
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I mean M1E1 had extra steel welded to the hull to simulate increased hull weight. Afaik M1A1 uses the same hull armor as the M1. So for Gaijin its probably not good enough evidence
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…which does not state that it is not an official document. It says the findings in the report aren’t an official position. You claimed it said that it wasn’t an official document. That is not what it says at all.
LOL! The cope and denial here! XD
It’s ballistic glass. That spall lining in between to hard and spalling layers stops it from shattering. Glass is well known for fragmenting into many dangerous pieces…unless it has a spall liner BETWEEN the hard layers. Keep up.
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What? Go to GPHC discord server vehicle discussions if you want to talk to other people, there are people dedicated to researching tanks there, like the Tankograd people and those focusing on western tanks because I think you need some help.
Like we went from tanks which use metal to glass??? What does glass have to do with this, unless youre talking about fibreglass which goes back to what I originally said.
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What do you think spalling is? Please define it.
already did in my post, unless youre saying spalling isn’t fragments?
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This is just blatantly incorrect
And pictures of unfinished hulls is disingenuous
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source?
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Its the turret. If you can’t tell that, perhaps you shouldn’t be commenting here.
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this is why I chill in the british discussion posts lol
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Lmfao. Are you serious? Thats all youve got? No shit its the turret
I mean you havent provided anything on why I would be wrong
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