yes its a pretty simple fact, there are plenty of sources for improved hull armor before SEPv3
so not much point in arguing about it
Ok so quote the response then.
If you cherry-pick and selectively read only what you want to read: Sure.
yes if you somehow cherry pick sources you can avoid showing any proof for it
but at the same time there are plenty of sources for such an improvement, and the only possible argument against it (suspension being overloaded) was proven wrong within a day of it being posted
Where is the cherry picking? Seems pretty plain to me that it directly mentions the enhanced protection and Hull (array) for the baseline M1A2, not the SEP v3.
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Planned but cancelled.
Again, we’ve been over this a dozen times, yet you keep pushing source this (debunked source) like a broken record, over and over again.
I’m not going to get into it again, feel free to go back to the previous dozen discussions on this exact same topic.
Those ‘‘sources’’ are fall into one or more of the following categories:
- They’re not valid sources (like the CBO report).
- They’re misread/misinterpreted by the person reading it.
- They’re of a secondary or tertiary nature, and people will conveniently ignore far more authoritative primary sources that contradict them.
- People choose to ignore context, and only quote a portion of the source whilst disregarding crucial context.
- People will confuse planned/proposed/prototype changes with actual production run changes (great example above).
Do you have anything stating that it was canceled? The GAO report only states that it was not planned to be deployed initially in whole. And outlines where projected weight savings could / would be found to permit its full roll out, and that the intent of the Army remained to deploy outstanding changes as the weight reductions permitted.
And as we know, weight savings were made, without the overall weight decreasing so the mass was most likely reallocated instead of being banked.
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ah yes, so including mentions of improved hull armor in budget documents clearly isnt a valid source
im done arguing with someone who is clearly here to spread misinformation and derail the thread
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I’m taking this is your first time interacting with him?
He always summon’s on Abram’s thread wether if its about firepower or armor enhancements and every single time he claims Abram’s hull didn’t improved until V3.
In some cases he might be right due to mixed sources on the internet but other times he just denies the upgrade possibility due to god knows why.
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There probably were array upgrades from the M1A2 onwards, but no one knows what got improved/changed. Gaijin would need a concrete source and of course no one can provide that. The upgrades most likely didn’t involve DU, but there were likely upgrades nonetheless.
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