Do away with the R-27ER+R-60M combo for early MiG-29s please I beg you

13.0 mig 29 with r27r and r73s will not be fun lol.

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Well, the Su-33 is a battle rating 13.0 airplane with this same weapons, it’s just a Squadron Vehicle, but I suppose you are afraid of the MiG-29 Sniper at battle rating 13.0 with R-27R and R-73 because it’s a Premium vehicle, or something else?

the difference is that the flankers get a massive amount of 6-8 r-27s, the mig-29 is limited to only 2 of them.And most of your kills are going to come from those 2 r27s.

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Unless Gaijin expand air battle rating further, battle rating 13.0 is the lowest battle rating possible for a airplane with these weapons.

Exactly. which is why it should stay at 12.7 with its current loadout where it will fare better

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They could limit it to 2 r73s and we get a mirage2000 situation

What can possibly be worse than fighting early 2000s aircraft with R-60Ms?

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This could sort of solve this question, but limiting is rather awkard for an premium vehicle in this battle rating. For comparison, the Mirage F1C-200 is at battle rating 12.0 with this similar situation, the thing is I doubt Gaijin will add an MiG-29 at battle rating 12.0.

R-60MKs are the best counterpart to the Aim-9L, I’m surprised that Gaijin didn’t just put the R-60M specifically.

The F1C’s sarh missile, rwr, radar and flight performance are terrible for its br, without the magic2 it would be an 11.0/10.7 plane, its not comparable to the mig-29 at all. The 12.7 mirage 2000 is a much better comparison to a mig29 with 2 r73s and r27Rs imo.

su-33 is terrible tho

Only thing that is equal between R-60M and AIM-9L is the fact that both have all-aspect ir seeker. 9L however has significantly better resistance to flares because of narrower seeker FoV and is useful in more situations because of its significantly longer effective range. R-60M has better performance only in one condition - very close range shots. But because it’s very close range - only very oblivious player won’t see it coming and just flare it easily.

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Mig29 will never be good, being limited to 2 BVR missiles blows ass. It will either sit at a BR it will club at or be at one it will be completely irrelevant. Its perfectly fine, great even 1v1 at 12.7, but ARB is not 1v1.

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Only thing terrible about Su-33 is a battle rating. If you aren’t uptiered into high performance air frames with 8-12 Fox-3 missiles you are extremely effective.

Used to, nowaydays both are single pop flared

In raw numbers, yes. But 9L having much better launch and lock ranges makes 9L significantly more consistent than R-60M.

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Gib, R-73 is necessary for early MiG-29s if you want them to be competitive

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Remove the Mig-29 Sniper from the game.

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true but the gap is much close these days.

You have to remember that the su-33 has the ER if they replace those with the R model and add the r-73’s to the 29 it shouldn’t be at the same br as the su, it should stay where it is. R-27R’s are great but they’re not ER’s

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