Do 217 improvement thread

while i am not very versed in historical documents etc. i do know the Do 217 is very lacking in performance and weaponry in War Thunder.

currently it is missing a lot of things like:

  • SC 1800 (for the E variants)
  • SC/SB 2500 (E, K and M)
  • bomb bay torpedo (E, K and M)
  • SD bombs
  • PC bombs (K and M, E has them)
  • PC-1400X (Fritz X) for the K and M variants
  • Hs 293 for the E, K and M variants
  • Outer wing racks (up to SC 1000 / torpedo)
  • Inner wing racks being able to carry bombs up to 1400 kg (PC 1400) and below and SC 1000 (SC 250, - SC 500 and similar) as currently you can only use SC 1000 on the inner wing bomb racks.
  • ER 4 bomb racks on the wing racks giving 4 x SC / SD 50 / SD 70 each (8 to 16 bombs extra)
  • correct internal bomb bay SC 50 amount and placement, should be 16 standard (Rüstsatz 11), 20 with Rüstsatz 18. and you also have Rüstsatz 19 for 2 long racks for 8 SC 50 in total but idk if this was a separate thing or could be combined with the aforementioned Rüstsatze to have 28 SC 50 in total.
    this is of course less than the plane currently has (32 SC 50)
  • forward MK 101 cannon (E-2 and E-4)
  • Do 217 N-1, J-1 and N-2 missing internal bomb load up to PC/SC 1000
  • better turret angles
  • Do 217 N-1 missing bomb bay fuel tank in normal model (as of Sky Odyssey)
  • correct overheating temperatures for all Do 217 (BMW 801 and DB 603)

some of my reports for the Do 217:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/6FfQ0ih0Lhib
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/d3TPPFXgMYcG
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/HG9EcBJ1n1h1
Community Bug Reporting System (accepted but not yet implemented)
Community Bug Reporting System
Community Bug Reporting System
other people’s reports on the Do 217:
Community Bug Reporting System
Community Bug Reporting System
Community Bug Reporting System (accepted but not yet implemented)
Community Bug Reporting System (implemented in update Sky Odyssey)
Community Bug Reporting System (accepted but not yet implemented)
Community Bug Reporting System
Community Bug Reporting System
Community Bug Reporting System
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images and documents will follow later below:

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These were night fighter/intruders not bombers. The J-1 & N-1 were equipped to carry 8x 50kg bombs only. The N-2 had the bomb bay faired over and carried no bombs at all.

The E-2/4, K-1 & M-1 variants currently in game were not equipped to carry either of these weapons. New suggestions would be needed as the relevent versions were structurally modified, notably with extended wings.

In the dev server both got the increased bomb load, didn’t check if they also got the additional bomb

Doubt they’ll add theses since it was added on a event plane/Battlepass

Never once seen anything other than 50kg bombs for the night fighters. Not saying the reference is wrong but theory and practice are often very different.

If the J-1/N-1change is incorporated then both aircraft will very likely get a BR increase, especially in Ground. They are already pretty bad due to the added weight and pushing them up will only make things worse.

Hs293 being present on the He177 doesn’t proclude it being added to other aircraft and variants in the future, notable the Do-217 and Fw200, especially as as Gaijin is pushing AShM at the moment in higher tier.

It’s not the wonder weapon some make out though as the guidance was MCLOS so you basically have to fly it all the way to the target - no fire and forget in those days.

i kinda did this as and exhaustive list.
and for the variants we have in game this part is just speculation from my part.
but i doubt we’ll ever get an E-5 or K-3 variant.

according to the bug report about this which used the manual for the Do 217 N-1, which states up to PC 1000 in the bomb bay.
and i do believe this regardless of the role.
the option to use these loadouts when needed seems very plausible to me.

for example the Bf 110 G-4 while being a pure night fighter also can carry bombs.

Unfortunately it kinda does lmao gaijin often locks unique weaponry behind the marketplace I don’t expect 293 to be added to anything else for a few years at least lmao

these type of threads are usually for wishful thinking and perhaps bug reports.
Gaijin works in the decades instead of weeks. i don’t expect magic to happen from this thread, it is simply a compilation of what the do 217’s need

That’s not always the case though. The Tech Tree Fw190F-8 got the Ruhrstadt X-4 when it could easily have been locked behind the pay wall. The He111H-6 has the PC-1400X.

Both of those weapons were added to tech tree aircrafts first. Not event vehicles

And they both could just easily have been premium/event. There is no rule saying a weapon is uniquely event only if it can also be fitted to other types in the trees, especially at different BRs.

no offense to you both, but do you have anything useful to add to this discussion?
if not please take this discussion somewhere else. whether a weapon can or can’t be added because it was on an event or premium before isn’t relevant to this thread.

They could of been but thankfully weren’t.

This happens so often it kinda is lmao 🤷‍♀️

Just because it has happened does not make it a Rule. It’s Gaijins choice, nothing more.