Discussion for the IAF F-16I Block 52+ “Sufa”

the normal derby and the ER are identical in shape. its the same as the python 4 and 5… both missiles are identical in shape its just that the ER is upgraded from the normal derby, same as the python 5 is identical in shape its just that the 5 is upgraded from the 4.

both missiles have the fins

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you can even see in the 2nd to last image that the I-derby is on it’s side with the plug on the side.
the last image is shown as the missile being “upright” with the plug on the top.

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yeah looking closer it’s probably this thing right here
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Actually it’s wings are HEAVILY reinforced so no. Rip speed would he different

I achieved Mach 1.22 while carrying nothing.

That’s a regular derby on the F-16B 4X-ACE testbed that’s been photoshopped. A lot of images are mixed together and altered weirdly enough.

The I-Derby ER does have its rolling fins removed, or they have them further swept back then on previous variants. @Surbaissemaxxing (if he’s online, I think he may be busy lately) can enlighten us on it as he’s well versed in the I-Derby series.

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I wont be able to make bug reports until 8th of September or so, as only then I can be on my PC again

But yes, the fins are removed (or use smaller ones). Rafael tends to use old photos by a huge amount. I-Derby ER also falls under that. The fins are either removed, or much, much smaller and swept

If you look on shown I-Derby ERs irl, this can be seen, albeit can look weird due to angles

And the ER having the same fins just doesnt make sense, considering that it would just give it more drag

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In other news, the RWR report is now up:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/8gUCy5Pe0y70

This RWR will give the F-16I K band coverage, allowing it to detect the Pantsir-S1’s tracking radar.

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Check out the launch video I sent above, the proportions of the fins look like a normal Derby I think, they don’t look any smaller, giving it more drag won’t be a problem at all because the Derby’s problem is the engine and removing it will probably reduce the maneuverability enough to make the full sphere capability not worth it

The same video was uploaded by Rafael on another site, simply titled I-Derby iirc

I cannot remember the site, but it was an official Rafael account. They use the site to host the videos from Rafaels actual website

The color of mfds will be change because the block 52+ it had multi colored display

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Do you still need a video? I can do one for you if still needed.

Yes, that would be great. Just go sea level and stay on full after burner with no ordinance

Min fuel too?

Theoretically doesn’t matter, but min fuel would be easiest for you so just do it min fuel

Here you go

Short of it is it got from 0 to mach 1 in around 38 seconds and at 100m alt I got up to 1497kph or mach 1.22. Kept hearing the critical speed warning from the VWS but no on-screen warning

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Rafael site (https://www.rafael.co.il/system/i-derby-er/) has this default video of derby er and it has the fins
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(Buff) New report for Pratt and Whitney F100-PW-229 engine missing thrust: Community Bug Reporting System

(Buff) New report for AN/APG-68(V)9 maximum range:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/wlWtge3tl3ox

(Nerf-ish) New report for AN/APG-68 scan angles: Community Bug Reporting System

(Buff) Report for AN/APG-68(V)9 missing GMTI mode(s): Community Bug Reporting System

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i create a new issue about 16 spice250 bombs of f16i, anybody some help plz? got a graphical evidence from RAFAEL’s video about their spice bombs

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https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/YAcP3Umm02tl