dont know enough about the terminator
But generaly the ones you named would count towards the more modern upgunned vehicles that will now be slowly considered with the next generation of mbts
specialy the chally 130mm, the terminator might still count as a step in between
Edit: quick check terminator would still perform worse then the older leopard 140mm lol so yeah
They won’t. They are much better than the 292 so they get a higher BR where they will maybe fit in.
Didn’t the 292 have 1000mm of pen aswell? They just made up the pen and velocity.
No they don’t they aren’t even good at their own tier.
Well yeah, they would still rip trough anything.
There is multiple 2a4 platforms at top tier 2a4m, 2pl. And more coming and the 140mm stilleasily performs better as them.
292 has 695mm thats it honestly, quite a big difference. The near 1000m for leo is trough soirces and confirmed trough the calculator gajin uses
Im for it to be added, however it would create another OBJ 292 incident. 9.0-11.7 was unplayable for months because of how busted that tank is. A top tier ultra-powerful gun tank (although would be more contained at top tier) would be just as big of a disaster. The only way I can see it being fair to add would be if the M1 Thumper (USA), Rheinmetall 130mm Leopard 2 (DE) and Rheinmetall 130mm Challenger 2 (GB) were added at the same time to at least balance the books so the 3.5 major nations (Britain isn’t seen as a major nation by the snail but realistically is as far as the military industry goes) all have an equivalent.
I am gonna ask this again since nobody answered it yet earlier.
Was the black eagle ever officialy equipped with a different cannon then the standard 125mm one?
Or is the 152mm just paper that guy copied from wikipedia without proof. The initials OPs post is horribly made source wise and the pictures
Information is scarce annoyingly and theres been several configurations of the vehicle. 125mm appears to be the most agreed upon however the potential that an updated 152 from after obj292 is still quite plausible
I mean plausible doesnt matter.
If there is no proof or even a picture to model it after it wont happen in war thunder.
The change from 125mm to 152mm does change a lot in a tank to accomandate everything.
As far as i am concerned there is no reason to discuss this fictional version then.
You are guys are better of talking about the real black eagle which will be less problematic to add either way
695mm of pen is gaijin using their penetration formula, it also should have close to 1000mm of penetration
We cant tell from a photo without a close up photo with a reference object of a known size, people thought the 3.7in 28pdr gun on TOG 2 was a 17pdr for years until someone actually measured the bore. Because obj 640 is still pretty undocumented we wont know until someone measures it and shows us all
In terms of natural rotation, I’m pretty sure theist event / battle pass vehicle Russia got was the Murmansk navel vessel, then long before that, the obj. 292, although I could be mistaken
Leo 140m is 1000 with the formular, so sth doesnt add up there on your end
You’re conveniently missing both eremin’s Yak-3 and KV-7.
it would be around 750~ with Gaijins formula
Highest numbers I’ve seen so far regarding high caliber prototypes are from the Object 195 and CATTB.
I forgot either existed tbh.
KV-7 has been off my radar since the event for the Is-7 which it was mandatory to get.
And Ermins Yak is decent. But I don’t play low brs all the time.
Glad you conveniently ignored my comment.
Pretty sure that. Gaijin said that the ammo its an early variant that use Mango penetrator with 152mm charge. No really the 1000m penetrator round Grifel-1/2.
Which one of them has an armor upgrade similar to the 2PL or 2CAN?
Im pretty sure the 695mm for the 292 is a lot less than it had it irl.
Swiss 2a4 the WE programm
Make a bug report proof me wrong.
All i am saying is thatbthe geeman 140mm has close to 1000 penetration with the calculation used and troughbsources confirming it
Doesn’t look game breaking to me and would be worse than the 12.0 Leo2A7s.
I don’t care enough to do a detailed bug report.
Doesn’t mean they actually give it that amount of pen.
Armor mobility wise yes.
Still way better firepower and will shoot trough anything
Actualy they would. All apfsds in the game are implemented trough this. To the complains of the british.
If it would implemented it would come with the 1000mm.
Any more modern ones rheinmetall 130mm will be even stronger
According to what sources lol?