Discussing the M830A1 nerf

Same propellant type yes, but not same amount. It’s very likely the APFSDS rounds use more propellant, this can also be seen by their obscenely high chamber pressures (with a lighter projectile too I think).

Anyway there’s quite some conflicting sources on M830A1 I guess…

The Northrop Grumman brochure also gives a different weight. And the M1002 brochure (practice round) says it uses a different propellant altogether, so it’s rather useless as well.

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https://www.gd-ots.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/120mm-M1002-TPMP-T.pdf
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so many sources, so many different statements, so many different numbers, measurements, calculations, i did a fact check and m830a1 use 2 differents packages, etc…
but in the end m830a1 is gonna perform worse ig…
its good irl tho

even if we assume the 7.5kg are correct we would still get

8.48kg - 7.5kg = 0.98kg or 980g which is only like 15g off of the 966g that gaijin is changing it to

so its like back to square one
m830a1 when it came out has the same explosive mass

yeah it is likely overperforming rn compared to the irl one

yeah but then we dont know what is the irl one like
and mind you rn its not really good either
i frequently try to use it against helis and they deal basically zero dmg
crit and they still flying

there is also the posibility that gaijins consultant has found the exact explosive mass in some document and has forwarded that document to gaijin

i was just wondering why such low number for a heat round
it just kinda bother me
also why nerf i mean its not really good already

because gaijin is advertising war thunder as the most realistc vehicular combat game out there

i would suggest that you eddite the initial post tho and add the Technical manual as a source and maybe change it so this dosnet seem like another stinger debacle for the ppl that dont want to read through the thread, because currently it dosent seem like that at all to me

yeah but theres alot of things ingame that is contradicting to that
unless u r being satire

iam not maybe gaijin is tho

well you probably didnt see the edit to my earlier post:

nah ill just leave it there

I’ll also just leave these here for more confusion I suppose… M908 is also affected, and M908 is closely related to M830A1, but not sure if all they really did was swapping out the proxy for an AP cap.

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Using the same propellelant isn’t the same as using the same amount. You can see this in the cut aways of the munitions.

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2.13 lb = 966 g
It is corrected as previous value is wrong.

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how did the bug report get through anyway
also is there a possible better replacement? cuz this thing kinda suck

the only real reason:
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Just like how the m735 nerf bug report got through with a guy using falsified documents. It could just be poor quality assurance on Gaijin’s part.

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The report fulfilled requirements with credible references.

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Do people actually use this ammunition?

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