Did SPAA get nerfed with alpha strike update? (Arcade)

[O_HOgameplay]

@винница_2017

Majority of my tanks have ≈ 1,5 kd

Ground targets destroyed (players): 1887
Ground deaths: 2548
1887/2548=0.74. So my in head calculation was pretty close :)
0.6 or 0.74, both are horribly trash.
Also 46% win rate and 43% relative team position is worse than some bots i have seen.

@винница_2017

The player spends time researching the planes and then bringing them out of the drain, which requires skill from him, as well as honing his bombing skill, he needs to learn to accurately drop bombs and missiles. and at the same time, to master airplanes you need 0 skill. I believe.

Tankers need to know including, but not limited to:

• Thousands of individual weak spots, and how to exploit them at what ranges with what shells at what angles
• Thousands of crew layouts, and how to effectively take out them, or at least disable the gunner and/or diver. You have to know again, what shell to use, where to aim.
• Thousands of vehicle stats, including, but not limited to reload rates, autoloare or manual, ready rack sizes, shell characteristics, armor layouts and effective thickness, forward/reverse speed, turret and hull rotation, gun depression, machineguns, and what can they do to your tank, and what can yours do to the enemy tanks, shell lead, distance lead, angling your armor, how to peak effectivel, and when to peak
• Hunderds of map positions, what tanks can use them, how to get there, how to counter them
• Situational awearness and tactical skills

CAS has to know NOTHING like these. The only thing they need to have is the ability to push a button/key, which can be done by a monkey.

How do i know that they are OP?
Because i use them, and can easily destroy the enemy vehicles, much easier than i can do with most, or more likely, with any tank.

[O_HOgameplay]

@винница_2017

Majority of my tanks have ≈ 1,5 kd

Do you want to admit that you lie, or shoud i go through and calculate the “majority”?

Most of the tanks with whcih your K/D is around (or better) than 1.5 are low tier stronger than other vehicles, AKA noob friendly tanks.

Your stats in very good tanks, like Panthers and Tigers is exactly like the stereotypical germany main too.

[O_HOgameplay]

@винница_2017

Majority of my tanks have ≈ 1,5 kd

Let’s do it, why not.

With 1.5 or higher K/D, you have the following tanks in AB:
KV-85, Ho-Ro, M4A3 (76)w, M4A2 (76) w, Turan III, SU-152, Strv M/42 EH.
The most amount of played out of all these is 11 games.
These are 7 vehicles. This 7 vehicles are only 35% of the 20 tanks on your first page of your statcard, let alone compared to the 7 pages. So in total, you played 7*20 vehicles, of which only 7 is with 1.5 or higher K/D, which gives the percentage of 5%, a mere 10th that you need for majority!

In RB, you have the following tanks with 1.5 or more K/D:
Breda 501, Strv m/42 DT, M4A2, Sherman III/IV, 75/46 M43, Turan III, T1E1, Strv m/42EH, L-62 Anti II, SU-122, T-34 (1940), M26A1, Pvkv III, KV-1 L11, Stuart I, M3 Lee, T-34-85, M13/40 III, Bkan 1c, M36B2, Maus, M8 LAC, Fiat 6614, Spj fm/43-44, IS-2, Lvkv 42, M109G, M4/T26, Tog II, Kv-1 C, Chi-He, SU-85M, Chi-Ha LG, T-50, 105/25 M43, AB-43, M56, Pz IV C, Vickers Mk 1E, Dicker Max.

These are 40 vehicles. Again most of them are rank 3 and lower and/or with very low number of battles.
You have 219 vehicles, which means, only 18% of them are 1.5 or higher K/D, a far cry from your “majority”.

Next time if you lie, at least lie about something that is not this easy to check!

[Offenbanch]

@O_HOgameplay

Tankers need to know including, but not limited to:

Pilots need including, but not limited to:

characteristics of your vehicle, characteristics of the enemy vehicle, who turns whom, what type of maneuvers is best to use with this enemy, what weapons enemy has, how to accurately drop bombs, missiles, correctly calculate ballistics, notice contacts and much more…

@O_HOgameplay

Because i use them, and can easily destroy the enemy vehicles, much easier than i can do with most, or more likely, with any tank.

buddy, your maximum is 200 fights on I-16 in arcade)))
Keep cope.

[O_HOgameplay]

@винница_2017

buddy, your maximum is 200 fights on I-16 in arcade)))
Keep cope.

AB CAS does not have statistics, but okay. You have a clear lack of game knowledge,

@винница_2017

characteristics of your vehicle, characteristics of the enemy vehicle, who turns whom, what type of maneuvers is best to use with this enemy

@винница_2017

what weapons enemy has

Irrelevant against tanks.

@винница_2017

how to accurately drop bombs

Even i can do it in RB test map, and i am as bad of a pilot as it gets.

@винница_2017

missiles

Missiles are guided :)

@винница_2017

calculate ballistics

For what?!
Against tanks? You just spam your cannons and some will hit at worst case. But you will see where your shells go so you can just adjust…

IF you talk about enemy planes, then it is not what i am talking about.

@винница_2017

notice contacts

Use your eyes :)

Against planes in other planes takes skill, and i never denied that. Using planes against tanks takes ZERO skill.

[Offenbanch]

@O_HOgameplay

Even i can do it in RB test map

Test flight against bots ≠ actual fight)
In polygon even losat is op

@O_HOgameplay

Missiles are guided :)

I didn’t know that hvars and mighty mise are guided.

@O_HOgameplay

Using planes against tanks takes ZERO skill.

Random dude with 0 experience in planes cannot perform as good as “top gun academic”.

And, why don’t you show how planes need 0 skill this in rb/sb?

[O_HOgameplay]

@винница_2017

I didn’t know that hvars and mighty mise are guided.

Those are rockets :)

And you don’t need guidance of them when you can just spam them :)

@винница_2017

Random dude with 0 experience in planes cannot perform as good as “top gun academic”.

Except i have.

@винница_2017

And, why don’t you show how planes need 0 skill this in rb/sb?

It is the same there too.

You can ramble all day about me not having experience. Why not counter my actualy claims? Oh you don’t have anything to do with.

Also, when will you address your lies?

[d0e5nTlicKbOot5]

I’d appreciate it if you could point me to a reference on this? I’m still not getting a lead indicator except in extremely marginal situations (for example, immediately before a plane dives below the horizon) and only for a second or two at a time. So it sure seems like they either took it away but there’s still some latent code somewhere which makes it occasionally appear, or they nerfed the hell outta it.

Either way, it would be nice to get some sort of official pronouncement on what the devil is going on.

[d0e5nTlicKbOot5]

So you are saying you still get the target leading indicator?

[twicethet123]

I noticed that there was little if any lead indicator earlier this week on SPAA vehicles although yesterday the lead indicator seemed to come up more frequently. It is still not as active as it used to be though. It does make you think a bit more where you need to aim without any indicator so may be a useful tool for progression to realistic.

[d0e5nTlicKbOot5]

no. Not useful at all, except for the entitled CAS spammers.

[d0e5nTlicKbOot5]

Super interesting. Where do you find such granular data on player stats? I look at peoples’ player cards from time to time, but have never seen, what did you say, eight pages?

[O_HOgameplay]

It depends on your screen size. On mine, it has 20 rows per page.

[d0e5nTlicKbOot5]

Still no target lead indicator with SPAA.

Interestingly, though, yesterday for whatever reason I decided to make use of my vehicle machine gun against an air target and the black circle [opped up immediately, and didn’t go away. I can only conclude from this that gaijin have decided to take away the black circle from SPAA, presumably because the entitled CAS spammers threw a tantrum. Or did they just take it away from certain players?

Kinda lame that after a week in a technical support sub-forum, nobody from gaijin has weighed in yet.

[O_HOgameplay]

[d0e5nTlicKbOot5]

Yes, in a non-SPAA vehicle. I’m still getting the indicator with tanks and SPGs also, but not with SPAA. Which is ludicrous since SPAA actually have a target lead indication mechanism built in. A spintle mount machine gun on a tank doesn’t. It’s completely upside down.

[O_HOgameplay]

[d0e5nTlicKbOot5]

Ok, what about a real battle and not the test drive map?