[Development] T77E1: The Last Cowboy + Skink & Ram II News

I don’t think the ZSU-57-2 is 7.0 for it’s anti-air capability

because it’s a heavy SPAA that was also used in USSR as tank destroyer. it’s actually recognized as such.

fair it is at least a domestic heavy

I suppose so, but I still think the anti-tank capability does the heavy lifting for ZSU-57. I basically never see it used as an actual SPAA, nor can I remember being shot down by one.

That aside, I think we can all agree that “overall effectiveness” is what determines how good a vehicle is, and that goes for SPAA as well.

A SPAA can have 0% anti tank capability but still make up for it with good anti-air capability. Some are dual-purpose, basically 50% anti-tank, 50% anti-air, a good example being LAV-AD.

That’s why I’m excited for this T77E1, it is a pure anti-air basically, as opposed to the dual-use M19 and M42

in real life, the ZSU-57-2 was intended to be used against high bombers and not low-flying aircraft. it was not designed to track quick targets, it was designed to shut down high targets at long range. bomber and aircraft flying in formation and such.

True enough, but this is not really the case in War Thunder

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Why the US getting the skink then if they get the T77?

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My guess is that the T77E1 will be 3.3 or 3.7 while we know the Skink is 5.3

Both fill out gaps in the US SPAA line

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Even if the skink is 0% US

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na, it was based on the 1955 futura

1955-futura-replica-4-637x400-740x480

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Two extra 12.7mms means it should be 1.3-2.3 BR higher than the 2.7 M16 MGMC? Also it can’t stand up to aircraft armaments, do you see the massive glass domes on it?

It has worse survivability (glass domes that are easy targets), similar mobility, a tad bit more firepower (2x 20mm is more similar to 4x 12.7mm, in my experience), but comparable amount of ammo per gun.

What is so different about this thing? Its 12.7mms don’t pen any more than the other Rank II 12.7mms.

And the US had nothing to do with Skink. Fair trade, ay?

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During WW2 Commonwealth nations literally operated under the British Army.

The only combat the Skink saw was with the 2nd Canadian Armoured Brigade who were apart of the British Second Army.

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Oh, I 100% agree. It’s just unlikely that that change would ever be implemented.

Only real hand US had with the skink was parts and chassis design. (Yes i say chassis cause very little was modified from the grizzly and the m4a1.) Other then that yeah the US had nothing to do with the tank.
I am surprised that they are adding it to the US but at the same time I’m not with Gaijins record.

finally the US gets a homegrown freedom dispenser

@TD_SEB Skink was never built on an American Hull, at all. It’s gonna be the same skink. My guess is they are doing this cause they got tired of seeing the same argument that Canadian vehicles should solemnly belong to the British Tech Tree despite the UK historically doing nothing to help the Canadians, and most of the training, maintenance, repairing, and construction. Financial aid etc was done by the US.

I like how you’ve said that so confidently. I wish I was wrong like that sometimes.

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If you wanna argue we can argue, if you wanna argue, please bring up proof to back your nothing burgers, But honestly considering many of your past comments, not worth my time.