5.7 Jumbo doesn’t have a soviet 85mm cannon.
With it’s pathetic 75mm, it’s a miracle that it isn’t absolute dead weight at it’s current BR. It only works out somehow due to insanely quick reload, still somewhat decent armor and - you guessed it - the stabilizer.
T-34-85 Taran will be 6.0 at the very minimum.
It’s not. You are just mad you don’t get to bully anyone with a stabilized T-34-85 at 5.7… or just don’t understand a thing about how the stabilizer works in this game
I’m mad? Please. I’m just stating the obvious, there are literal people on this thread saying it should be 6.3 🤣
It’s just proving my point.
There is no way it will be 5.7 while being a direct upgrade to an already good tank. I’m thinking it will be6.0/6.3, any higher will make it DOA.
It very well could be 6.3 and quite frankly it is the most likely BR for it.
Just so you know, having or not having stab in this game instantly lowers the BR of your tank.
Just as an example, the soviet PT-76b is known for it’s stab and it is the sole reason for it being at 5.3 with such a horrible platform. What many people don’t know that there is also now removed from tech tree chinese PT-76 at 5.0 - just without a stabilizer.
Guess what, the soviet PT-76b although still disliked by many people due to it’s low speed and bad ammo choice, is still a fairly usable and fairly well performing thing, while chinese one, even at lower BR, is considered one of the worst tanks in the entire game for it’s Battle Rating.
Having or not having stab makes the way you play the tank entirely different. You just need to actually know how to utilize it
Exactly. I’d say 6.0 is a fitting BR for it, T20 should probably also go down to match it.
It absolutely won’t be a bad tank even at 6.3 though.
I could see something like the T-34-85 1969 being 6.3 since that fires a HEAT shell, obviously no stabilizer though. Anything higher than 6.0 is unlikely for the Taran.
Exactly. I’d say 6.0 is a fitting BR for it, T20 should probably also go down to match it. It absolutely won’t be a bad tank even at 6.3 though.
Heat shell version would probably be 6.0, in line with how M36B1 and B2 are treated when compared to standard M36.
HEAT won’t change much, as it still won’t be your main shell at this BR, since you don’t need all that pen and soviet APHE is just that good.
Stabilizer on the other hand directly improves your tank in every single scenario.
You’ve got it backwards, HEAT-FS directly impacts what tanks the T-34-85 can fight without it being completely outmatched in firepower.
No, it’s not backwards. Facing tiger 1 for example you won’t benefit from HEAT, quite the opposite, it will only make it harder for you.
On the other hand, stabilizer quite often will e the difference between life and death.
Outside of full uptier, you will never use the HEAT on 34-85. Stab on the other hand is always on and is always helpful
I’m willing to agree to disagree because I’ve had a completely different experience with these things.
Free aced them all when they announced the event t3485 partisan. Lol now i have to free ace the premuim pack one, the partisan and the E whenever that goes on sale
With that logic… Let’s put unstabilized Shermans at 2.0 /j
Yes Gaijin, thank you. More WW2 vehicles. I’m more excited for this than the Chieftain 900 even though I’m a British/Commonwealth main.
Its pretty bad argument. BR of vehicles depends on many factors and stabilization of cannon is one of them. But you cant ignore other factors.
I would say BR 6.0 would be ideal. Its pretty big improvement compared to standard T-34-85 but not so big to be on BR 6.3.
So it should share one br with Panther and Tiger 1E ?
I think the truth is simpler. It will either go at 6.0 or at 6.3 depending on Gaijin’s playtesting and predictions. Then however once it hits the live server and player stats come out, the new data will change the picture.
I can easily see a scenario where it debuts at 6.0 but eventually climbs to 6.3, and equally a scenario where it debuts at 6.3 and goes down to 6.0. Or the initial BR placement could just be correct. There are two things I’m sure of: 5.7 is too low and 6.7 is too high. Which of the two BRs in between is the best fit, we simply cannot know until players start using it and we get actual statistics for it.
Do we remember situation with t25? DO WE?
“It has stabiliser, he needs to go to 6.3”
Gajin removed stabiliser, tank stays at 6.3.
“And so what?”
If gajin want to add this lower than 6.3, it would be just bias, or “our statistics pulled from ( . ) shows it would be good placed, trust me bro”
