[Development] Rank IX Aircraft and the F-16C Block 52!

“You can greatly increase your reasearch with the US STARTER PACK”

That is the funniest thing I’ve seen Gaijin say, absolutely dead right now 🤣 😂 💀 😆

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At 7:58, it says ‘Whenever possible, we’ll include ‘shared’ vehicles in multiple tech trees right away’

He’s referring to vehicles that when in dev server, players argued should be added to multiple trees that had them with the M44 + M55 being the given examples.

It is entirely possible, regardless of what they bring to said trees, to add an F-16C-Block 52 to more than just the USA going off of present independent nations, sub-trees and minor nations.

F-16 B52 PoBIT itself might not be used by other countries.
This specific variant is hard to find any other users.
So as I said, the Q&A doesn’t mention anything to do with this matter.

usless jet in meta right now F15EX would have been better choice

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If I am confused as to the specific variant then I apologise as statcard simply states it to be F-16C Block-52 at present

Regardless

There are multiple sub-variants of Blocks, and it can get confusing navigating all of the changes at times.

Are you for real with this one Gaijin?

How about ‘no’ - it’s not a ‘new more powerful engine’ - it’s a different engine option. Seriously - the only difference is the engine between block 50 and 52, and at that they both have certain trade offs, at best a Block 52 should be a foldered vehicle with the Block 50, like an F4F variant with the F4F, or that one Challanger.

Now - Block 50 and 52 aircraft, as well as I believe even some 40/42’s, are being upgraded to have things like AESA and other avionics - under the PoBIT program. Even if you’d just called it V or Block 70/72 depending on engine used - cause again that’s the only real difference between block numbers like that - cause PoBIT ain’t great, that’d be something. But that’s an in-progress upgrade of today, not when this thing was made cause that’s an aircraft from 1993 your showing, a couple years before a fighter aircraft even flew with an AESA system and a lot longer before the US actually started putting them on aircraft, especially F-16’s.

Which is also to say that contrary to what you have in your write up - the Block 52 is not the most advanced of the Falcon family, as it falls behind the Block 60’s designed for the UAE that were the first Falcons with AESA, and the Block 70/72/V/PoBIT new builds/upgrades, and even then was still on par with it’s Block 50 counterpart aka the plane we already have in game.

Or - is this your guys way of saying instead of adding in the Viper V/PoBIT/Block 70/72 version of the fighter, your gonna take what we already have, add whatever you feel like adding to it to up it’s BR, and call it a day unless it turns out to be so weak or wrong or so much unyielding backlash that you have to actually change it more? Or did the team that usually does this kinda research just not actually look?

Or to TL;DR this - if your giving us the F-16V standard aircraft, change the damn name to any of the 3 applicable to a model using the P&W engine instead of the GE engine, or, if your just tossing whatever you want on a Block 52 and trying to sell it as a bigger upgrade than it is beyond AESA and missiles you’ve decided to add to it - drop it and add in the stuff to give us the F-16V standard instead of making up some hybrid variant. Least the ‘Golden Eagle’ was a planned upgrade - and I’m still waiting for you guys to get that right since it’s literally ‘What if we made the single seat C’s in to single seat F-15EX’s’ and so is still missing some AMRAAM’s.

Also - why does it feel like pulling teeth to get you guys to either get things right on US vehicles, or even get them added in the first place in cases?

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Examples being?
I was under impression that Blocks were for differentiating subvariants within main production variants
EDIT: IE F-16C Block 50 (C variant, Block 50, GE powered) or F-16A Block 10 (A variant, Block 10, P&W powered)

Typhoon players: “first time?”

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Aim 120D? Can MICA’s range be un-nerfed please

To use Block 52 as an example.

I’ve found reference (albeit little specific changes due to unclear presentation online) of Block 52+, Block 52 Advanced and, I think, Block 52+ Advanced

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I see, thank you

what isnt already added from ww2 in game that would change stuff on how it plays, or be enjoyable??? :Sob:

… the mica is and will remain the best overall fox 3 either way stop whining

I want Lightning back

ngl, the model looks so much smoother compared to the block 50, im glad to see the modelling teams taking advantage of the game’s limits in that regard

Overall? Nope. Still lacks in range

The R‑27ET being “a child” compared to AIM‑9X is exactly why AIM‑9X should be on the table.
The current meta already has weapons like R‑73 and strong IR BVR options that completely outclass AIM‑9M in real gameplay.

I won’t say much but 14.3 br for a 6 missile plane (going against 12-14 missile planes) is a bad take no matter where you look at it.

Enjoying the F‑15E/GE and Super Hornet doesn’t really address the balance problem though. Those jets are fun, but they’re also flying with nerfed engines, no modern IR like AIM-9X and BR environment shaped around not letting US lean into its real strengths.

The whole complaint isn’tthese aircraft are unplayable”, it’s that they have to be artificially dragged down so other nations don’t have to adapt.

Rank IX is exactly the point where US should finally get its full toolkit. Like proper performance + AIM-9X. instead of being the nation that’s always told “you’re fine, you don’t feel limited.