[Development] Pre-order: Jean Bart — The Last French Battleship

It exactly means that by the very definition of the words not public.

You can make a guess ofc but as always things are subject to chance.

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Whatever france might have in store for a new top tier. I doubt it would be free of its own controversies.

Though I am very curious what it could be.

(My own interests lie more with cope about submarines though, I still haven’t let go of the battle of the atlantic event)

Catch 22 yet again

Same I have some ideas but I’ll wait to see if they’re confirmed.

Yeah same here on the event it was really fun

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I think the main concern for a new top french BB now is the breaking of the ‘the vessel needs to have at least been laid down’ “rule”. That all ship additions have functioned under up to this point.

Part of me thinks that could be a bit of a slippery slope seeing how some current ‘unfinished’ ships got introduced (like Amagi coming in its original plan layout instead of final design, along with other inaccuracies)

On the other hand, if we do go more ‘paper’ with naval additions. Then my copium stocks in the Japanse BC B-65 will go through the roof

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He should have, yes.

TBF, Goalpost moving has been a thing since day one

to squeeze money out of whats left obviously have you seen the way they absolutely butchered the GNIESNAU its .3 higher the orginal with toptier guns and same armor genuinely mind numbly bad decisions are what make naval naval

not to mention how top tier 8.7 matches are just US vs USSR

and america just gets to roll in it every update with the best ships in game at every br that actually matters

Cause any other BB has no chance. You can’t sink those ships in any realistic ingame way, while they light you up with a simple barbette hit. Its just so braindead horribad and unbalanced that I gave it up. I don’t play cruisers or BBs.

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the only exception being yamato which can loose in a 1v1 to a colorado

So, when are you going to announce vehicles we actually care about. You know, planes, tanks, that sorta stuff? Because right now, this update is just going to elongate my vacation.

Sevastopol which is 7.3:

Granted, Sevastopol has garbage for armor.

Not a single ship in Warthunder should be able to even resist Yamato’s guns at most ranges. Hell, she couldn’t even resist her own guns under 20km.

Guess which two ships can in Warthunder, one requires pixel hunting while also being able to instantly kill her with stock shells at 17km+?

Yamato in warthunder can lose to even 35.6cms, which it’d be literally impervious to in real life.

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You mean things you care about. The self entitlement is wild.

got in a duel against Yamato sub 9km with Richelieu and won

The tiger P syndrome is just too much. Opponent was smart too, his ammoracks were pretty empty

Eventually sunk a few minutes later to “unsinkability lost” (one of my favourite)

Richelieu should be waterline penetration at effectively any range for Yammy but I’d need to look - I don’t remember but French battleships post Paris are generally made of glass.

Richelieu has more-or-less the same level of protection as Iowa.

330mm v 305mm at the waterline

Goddess Help Us

Dunkerque is a bit fragile but it can work (225mm on the belt)

Richelieu is quite well armored for a relatively small Batttleship

Angled main belt at 320mm + angled armored plate at 50mm + anti-torp armor of 50mm

Front bulkhead varies from 165 to 355mm, the 165mm being the obvious weak point, but not easy to hit.

Since all guns are on front you can also abuse angling. Pretty solid ship overall imo

Looking at armor viewer and setting to sub 9km, you can straight up nuke a Richelieu aiming just in front of turret 1 if she’s angled.

Alternatively just aim barbettes as close to the deck. I’d have to actually test in live environment because I genuinely don’t trust armor viewer.

They are going to make it premium bro. For the H39 arrival

Obviously. Given the cryptic messages of the mods, the way I see it, there are two or three possibilities :

Either Gaijin is going for the Alsace battleship. In this case, whatever they choose will be filled with speculative elements. Even with the 2018 Potsdam archives, the very few elements we know about the Alsace battleship are insufficient to make a true, historical battleship out of it. So they’ll arbitrarily decide the dispersion, reload, etc… and it obviously won’t be satisfactory.

Or : Gaijin goes full Cold War and implements the first cold war missile warships here, starting at 9.0. Most likely the Suffren frigate… in which case it’s a whole other problem.

Last but not least, France did work on 450mm (17.7") guns in the immediate post WW1… this was cancelled with the Washington treaty in 1921, but they could have exhumed some battleship plans I’m not familiar with with this guns… but this is highly unlikely.

The thing about this angle that I find quite funny is that most missiles (and thus missile ships) won’t be able to actually deal with battleships.

Ships cannot be mission killed in game, and large HE warheads do very little damage to the armour we see at 8.7.

The “paper” route I find more plausible. But that’s going to open a door to questionable gun performance, shell stats, and internal module layout. Especially if the bound for what counts as a proper “paper” design aren’t defined.

In its extremes, Kaneda’s 500kt monstrocity could be a valid paper design.

I’m not too doom and gloom about what might happen, but I suspect it might be a pretty bold choice.

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