[Development] Discussing reports related to the Challenger 2 MBT

When I look at the xray I see the Spall liner at the front plate in front of the driver but I can’t find it anywhere else. Is it there and hard to find? When I shoot at it in the hanger only the front one displays too as far as I can see. Is this still coming? Thx

Cheers o7

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You mean this?
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Sweet, thanks mate. Sides I’m guessing I’m just missing in my search?

The spall liner is at: UFP, turret sides, turret roof and behind the cheeks

I dunno about you but that looks like a 90° hit to me XD

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Exactly. If the blocks were being sold as part of a larger kit then Smin would be accurate in his testing. But they’re being sold as their own discrete armor component and not reliant upon anything else to provide that frontal impact protection. Therefore, in order to meet the STANAG 5 standards they must be able to provide that 0 degree protection.

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Cool. I’m clearly just blind then. Thanks for the quick reply mate

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Here is a US 25mm APFSDS:


Clearly penetrating the ERA.

Considering this company fits ERA to bradleys, I would say it’s more than likely it’s tested against bradleys rather than Freccias.

If we take Bradley, then the angle of nonpen becomes 69

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.paxisceramics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/stanag-45691.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwit1aSBq-WDAxV4gP0HHd0YBXUQFnoECCUQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0JI1lUIB6BHBEhxJf0E2id
This might explain more tbh

This is the only source I’ve found:

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Same as my link, it showcases everything

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Yes. And in order for a specific armor component to meet STANAG Level 5 it must be able to provide that 0-0 angle hit protection.

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Yeah, so it’s underperforming by about 1 degrees vs the bradley.

Bigger question is

a. What is the chemical protection like compared to real life?
b. The game models it as ERA instead of an active ERA + passive NERA element. I’m sure they’ll give us the usual “game engine” argument here.

@Smin1080p Updated once again, now with test using Bradley, a IFV that ASPRO is advertised on, so surely its APFSDS would be included in threats it defends from
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Nothing personal or anything, Just trying to convey what is wrong and how it should be interpreted

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Smin right now doing his level best to try and fix things for the angry Brits:

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If you shoot in paper bmp-2 on angle 89°, its armor will be on level of abrams

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This is just sad.How can this be so complete opposite of what Gaijin is claming to be .Insane .

We have no idea what that is a simulation of. Could be a different product, could be a different round. Hard to say it’s just a stock photo, but it could be an internal stock photo. This alone won’t convince the devs.