Sad noises
At least we should be safe from BMPs
You should be safe from any grounf based CE attacks though. Possibly the most protected tank in the game for that actually
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But top attack was never addressed on CR2 until APS came in Medusa and Black Night
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No one really needed to use thunder skill to say the U.S is doing poorly. Gaijin has stated that themselves. Then you also have every streamer/youtuber saying that 9/10 games will be a loss.
And it is pretty well known that an Abrams is pretty easy a 1 shot kill. It spalls like crazy.
From what found in my search, Gaijin’s point on production SEPV2s not having DU armor in the hull, or spall liners is true.
I don’t see why they don’t do what they did for T80B and allow not production SEPV2 to have its DU armor as per the 5 test beds but…who knows.
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I mean i’d argue if its for historical reasons and the Americans genuinely are doing that badly because the vehicle doesnt bring any benefits compared to other vehicles, i’d argue adding the SEP V2 was the original sin and should’ve skipped to the V3.
My limited understanding is the main differences in the V2 don’t have much, if any meaningful gameplay changes, the big one being TUSK and ARAT, which I understand could’ve been equipped on earlier iterations of the Abrams.
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There is nothing that supports that V2 does not have DU in the hull. The fact that there is dozens of news articles talking about having to use older tanks to increase production for Ukraine is proof. The issue is gaijin keeps asking for the protection value which is classified, and i could not share it even if i had it.
Couldn’t agree more!! Useless addition honestly, though we see that across the board with every new top tier tank. CR3 is more of a side grade to CR2 (Original)
As far as the sources i’ve seen goes, there were 5 models of SEPv2 with DU in the hull. All others did not have this.
First off what sources? If you are referring to the 2001 documents the V2 was not in service till 2007 and likely entered production some point in 2006.
I find the black night and 2E to be better then the 3(TD)
Have you forgotten the updated and amended license that changed the DU limit for hulls from “5 hulls” to “as needed”?
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Again, this is a “From what i’ve seen”. I don’t play US vehicles because I find them mind numbing, but from the evidence i’ve seen presented by Gaijin, I have to begrugingly agree with what they presented.
Happy to be shown different sources though, but from what i’ve seen, 5 SEPV2 vehicles were made with DU hulls.
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That said this is the Challenger 2 MBT thread.
That was from a 2001 so how could it be a v2 this is why it’s annoying that people are going around making up statements as facts from nothing.
Then don’t make up lies about documents that don’t exist.
That is a 2001 document that is not a SEPv2. Again you are making your own facts
Because i’m yet to be shown evidence to suggest otherwise? Its not lies, you just cant make assumptions lile that. It needs evidence.
I do the legwork for Challenger 2 and provide evidence for my claims on things I want changed or see as wrong in game.
If you think something is wrong, provide sufficient evidence to correct it.
I’m not lying, this is just what’s been stated.
Also again- Challenger 2 thread. This has nothing to do with the topic, so please feel free to move this to somewhere that is relevant.
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Yet again missing the point
You said he was lying straight up when he can be mistaken or missing info assuming every just doesn’t want the tank buffed and is lying isn’t right
Link them then?
This isn’t misinformation, this is just the information that’s been put infront of me. Until I get something else to look at, this is all i’ve got to go off.
Maybe don’t come into a thread and be overtly hostile, next time?