Exactly. If the blocks were being sold as part of a larger kit then Smin would be accurate in his testing. But they’re being sold as their own discrete armor component and not reliant upon anything else to provide that frontal impact protection. Therefore, in order to meet the STANAG 5 standards they must be able to provide that 0 degree protection.
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Cool. I’m clearly just blind then. Thanks for the quick reply mate
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Here is a US 25mm APFSDS:
Clearly penetrating the ERA.
Considering this company fits ERA to bradleys, I would say it’s more than likely it’s tested against bradleys rather than Freccias.
If we take Bradley, then the angle of nonpen becomes 69
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.paxisceramics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/stanag-45691.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwit1aSBq-WDAxV4gP0HHd0YBXUQFnoECCUQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0JI1lUIB6BHBEhxJf0E2id
This might explain more tbh
This is the only source I’ve found:
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Same as my link, it showcases everything
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Yes. And in order for a specific armor component to meet STANAG Level 5 it must be able to provide that 0-0 angle hit protection.
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Yeah, so it’s underperforming by about 1 degrees vs the bradley.
Bigger question is
a. What is the chemical protection like compared to real life?
b. The game models it as ERA instead of an active ERA + passive NERA element. I’m sure they’ll give us the usual “game engine” argument here.
@Smin1080p Updated once again, now with test using Bradley, a IFV that ASPRO is advertised on, so surely its APFSDS would be included in threats it defends from
Nothing personal or anything, Just trying to convey what is wrong and how it should be interpreted
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Smin right now doing his level best to try and fix things for the angry Brits:
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If you shoot in paper bmp-2 on angle 89°, its armor will be on level of abrams
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This is just sad.How can this be so complete opposite of what Gaijin is claming to be .Insane .
We have no idea what that is a simulation of. Could be a different product, could be a different round. Hard to say it’s just a stock photo, but it could be an internal stock photo. This alone won’t convince the devs.
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But the ERA is damaged, it isn’t depleted, how is that not a success?
If it met a STANAG level, it would mean the bullet was stoped
If the bullet continues through it means it failed
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Okay, I don’t see that in the image provided. But I’ll take your word for it. Can gaijin comment on the color coding of damage to an ERA? If the outer metal shell is indented by a round/fragment, does it change color? Is the protective ability of the ERA module compromised?
This is a mechanic that would be really helpful to know I belive.
So, the ere and its casing are made as one. Getting hit by a ce ammunition will detonatate it. Getting hit by ke will damage it, making it yellow, orange, red or disappearing, depending on the HP it lost and it had left. The era has its build in ke protection that it will keep at the same level untill it dissapears.
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But even if you count the backplate as part of the STANAG level 5 package it still falls short in game. A 25 mm APFSDS round will go through the ERA, through the backplate and a decent way into the side hull armour before stopping. By the developer’s logic the round should never make it out the other side of the back plate.