[Development] Badger IFV: A Beast Yet To Come

Ah right, yeah.

So thats 3x 30mm boxer variants, 1x 40mm boxer variant and the Ajax. (all of which could be added with and without ATGMs) But instead went for the notably weaker SA Badger most likely at a BR where we dont really have anything else, so will be forced into uptiers most of the time

The bigger issue is it is straight up not suitible for where they want to place it, the rof is abysmal, and its huge, the only thing it has over the fox is its stabalizer and a few more mm of pen. The fox none ironically is better armoured then this present day IFV XD

If it had some sort of atgm that functioned i could see it working, but your going to be peppering someone with 30mm rounds at a shot a second, then having to awkwardly reload once you have fired 40 shells, as it has a ready rack system similar to the cv90

Haha, yep, no surprise there.

Also, just thought, Scimtar Mk2 would have been a better option too

Yep, its for flank and scout, maybe taking out the odd IFV or SPAA and thats it. Im gunna stick with the Desert Warrior, Scimitar and Stormer HVM in my 10.3/10.7 for scouting I think

Or the Hitfist warrior
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Literally an improvement over the desert warrior with a 30mm bushmaster instead of the 25mm.

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Also the Warrior Verdi II for a multirole IFV (40mm Gun + Starstreaks)

if you diverge into 40mms its an entire family of warriors, its why i gave up suggesting them, the mod had a half chub for that gun system for about a decade so its got so many variants. The point stands though, the Badger is not a good vehicle, it is not going to belong at the br they put it in at, as in truth with the rof and lack of ATGMS its straught up at best on par with the desert warrior, but for some reason they are earmarking it for end of the line

Yeah, Im very much concerned about that wording. Let alone the fact that would suggest its a higher BR than the TTD, which means rather than being 9.3/9.7 where it would be weak but usable, it might be more like 10.3 which would be outright insane. Though the Desert Warrior is far from stella at 10.0, and they’ve been artificially nerfing the Fox and Scimitar a lot recently, so it would be on track

Aye the turret traverse nerf was pretty drastic, that was one of the most dodgey bug reports i have seen in quite some time, is there anything else i have missed.

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They were also planning on nerfing the shells so that rather than being set to IRL specs, it was set to their own calculator, which would have reduced its short range pen by quite a bit, iirc and then finally the fact they are at 8.0, just 0.3 BR lower than the Warrior Milan with stabilizer, TVD and MILANs and with the same gun

Yeah that would have been bad, the rarden is good, the issue is the fox and the weaker scim punish people who dont pay attention, there is a reason it skyrocketed the fox to the moon. Ironically the fox still doesnt have its true top speed of 65mph, even though all my other bug reports for it at launch were implimented

Yeah, Gaijin has a wierd adversion to Britain and its IFV/CRVTs.

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shame really, one of these days if i see a fox at a show i will just get them to spin the turret around full wack and we can time it. But in regards to this Badger I’m more dissapointed, and might have to make a few serious bug reports to correct it when it is on the dev server, as if i were to guess they have used that brochure for the rof value, when they was the early draft design and used a different gun.

Yeah, will be needed and yeah, its a shame. Especially as people seem really excited for whats going to be one of the weakest IFVs in the game even at a sensible BR but is probably going to be stupidly over BRed on top of that.

And there will be people that will say that Britain has no alternative and requires south africa for any IFV options

I am actually trying to think of a weaker ifv, liteterally all the 25 and 30mm wheelie boys have like 200 rpm, this thing is worse by a big metric. I will hazard a guess its gonna be 9.7 at a minimum.

Yeah, at least it will make the Desert Warrior look good now :D

9.7 was my guess initially based upon ICV in Japan, but now, I think 9.3 would be pushing it, though we do have 9.3s, so would be usable. But definetly not “top tier” or “end of line” worthy

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and we both know that thing is pretty mid and about 4 years late

Britain? IFV? On-time?

Never gunna happen

Wait a minute, this dev blog says its end of the line at rank VI for the light tank line, how is that gonna work is the desert warrior is rank VII

Yeah, no idea. and I think its going in line 5 as well.

So its wierd the wording they’ve used, it makes no sense how it will be top tier and end of line when it will be neither of those things

Aye, now i am more confused, as it literally cant be rank VI and end of the line, all the brit lines terminate at the lowest at rank VII

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