AS90 - Technical data and discussion

Really? What did you pick it for?

theres a big castle in wales that i like

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Do any of you know if there is maybe a specific reason for this charge bag to be the last one to be used?
Because the charge bag is grouped together with are some of the first ones to be used (outside of the first stage ammo).

It itself is not part of the first stage ammo.

Charge bag in question



Order of which the ammo is consumed by constant firing

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the order that ammo is consumed is just really weird with hull stored stuff sticking around until the end.

Id prefer it to be burned through first so that the turret bustle isnt weirdly empty

imagine if the tiger 2 used hull stowage at lower ammo counts than the rear bustle lol it would be so weird

Just did some more testing, and the use order of ammo is interesting to say the least.

It reloads its ready rack with the charges in the hull first (except the single piece of ammo i mentioned before), afterwards it does it with the ones in the turret.

But if you are constantly firing it shoots the ones in the turret first, where it uses the charges in the back of the turret first, then in the front turret, and then the one specific charge i mentioned. After that it uses the rest of the hull charges.

Scenario 1: Shooting the ready rack, and letting it reload in between.




Scenario 2: Constant shooting without letting ready rack reload




Also to note, is that the turret racks does not get restocked like the ready rack does when there is downtime. Meaning you can have some pretty funky ammo layouts in the later parts of the games you play.

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Just created an report on the ammo use order. Could you maybe send it along to the devs @Smin1080p_WT?

I know that it is described a bit convoluted, but it is a bit hard to describe.

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/mgIqGCsXWMrr

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Post updated to Machinery of War Discussion

This is probably an unpopular opinion, but I genuinely feel like the AS90 should be 7.3

It just completely overshadows the G6, AuF1 and 2S19M1 and it absolutely rivals the Type 99 and 2S19M2
The only advantage that the PLZ05 and PzH2000 have over the AS90 is their LRF

Also, I still think the Braveheart would have been a better addition

Spoiler

Gotta retire the G6 now :(

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Im not against that. Type 99 is that BR with a slower reload (same shells)

However for the 99 and 90 (and GBT even tho its worse than as90 in every way) to be fair at 7.3 the pzh2000 and vidar also need a bump up. Laser rangefinders on SPH units is an even bigger advantage than on APDS tanks from having to find the tiny overpressure spots on certain things

PZH should be 8.3 and Vidar at 8.7. things are just unfair at their BRs almost all SPH units are

Braveheart and Krab would be cool to see in the future still

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just a note: is the AS 90 rof bugged?

Feels like its rof after the first stage ammo is way too fast.

Dunno in test drive it is 10 seconds after the first stage, that’s in line with the 6 rounds per minute during “intense” firing

If it’s faster for you, maybe the loader skill is erroneously applied?

Oh for sure, I’ve always been of the opinion that the LRF SPHs should be at a way higher BR than they currently are

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seems about right. in the real world first two reloads are less than 4.5 seconds so its still too weak

It is, it takes only 6.5 seconds to load after firing the first 3 shells, it’s an insanely fast reload

It feels like it has the 2 round ready rack and continues firing at the same rate of fire regardless. It’s quite insane. Makes the premium one look like a joke. I don’t care if it stays 7.0 or not, but if that’s where Gaijin wants it they need to evaluate the BR of things like the Sholef and AuF1.

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the premium one is a second slower per shell. which makes it worthless next to as90

It was less mobile (Vickers hull), while reloading much slower. Now it is looking better.

I’m really curious as to how can the AS90 magically get 940m/s out of an L/39 barrel, not to mention that reload speed

The AS90 was designed from the outset to use M203A1 “super” propellant charges.

M109s use them too I’m just not sure what variant it started with. And presumably the M109A1s in game (also 39-calibre) are not using that propellant charge.

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Its still worse in every way. but quite adequate for the BR.

AS90 is disgusting without its 10 second sustained reload ngl.

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