Better to increase mirages
It will be on 13.3, and literally fall on 13.7. Unlike 13.0. These are literally the only two aircraft (AV-8B Plus) that are armed with long-range missiles with a combat rating of 13.0. This is no longer fair in relation to other aircraft
So that will be a fair decision for you if a jet with good flight performance (Relatively to AV-8B), 4 aim-120s and 4 aim-9L/I be at 13.0, where aircrafts are armed only with short-range and medium-range missiles
Ok and now changes to loadout and BR that I’d like to see-
- MiG-29s all but SMT: lose R-27ER, add R-73, to 13.0. Let the MiG-29s have their historical armament and be useful as the dogfighters they were meant to be rather than relying on BVR with their shitty radars.
- Phantom FGR.2: Add AIM-9L, to 12.0, it’s historical and the FG.1 would still be available at a lower BR
- F-4F: add AIM-9L, to 11.3. Again historical loadout and would make the aircraft much more effective.
- F-104G (Italy): add +2 AIM-9J to match the German and French models, no BR change needed.
- F-4EJ (all): add AIM-9P-4 and no additional BR changes to compensate for the lack of Agile Eagle and 7E-2s.
- JA-37C: Add RB-74, to 12.0
JA-37D: add RB-99, to 13.0
Historical loadouts for these vehicles. The primary distinguishing upgrade of the 37D was AMRAAM carriage. - F-16A ADF (Italy): add AIM-120B, AIM-9L(I), to 13.7. The ADF in Italian service only ever used AMRAAMs and not Sparrows.
- F-16s (all): add AIM-9M, 12.7>13.0 and 13.0>13.3. Gives these aircraft something to compete with the earlier suggested R-73 while also distancing the airframes from 3rd gens. Perhaps except AJ.
- MiG-21 Bison: add R-73 carriage for inner wing pylons, that can be carried there and would help the aircraft be not quite so mid
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Yes, there aren’t many 13.3’s to compare it to. Same way right now there aren’t many 11.7’s in the game. It’s arguably the best 13.3, I’ve even heard some people say they’d prefer F4F ICE due to the AIM120’s being SO far superior.
The difference between F15C/F16C and 29SMT, is greater than the difference between Tornado/F4F ICE and 29SMT. It belongs at 13.3
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leave it 10.0, no reason for it to go up with the rest of the stuff, same with F-105D
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The Abrams is still pretty far behind the 2A7 and Strv 122.
Which is why we need decompression.
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Probably because it’s a decompression change rather than a balance one? The post says they’ll do planned BR changes later based on how these unplanned ones go
staying 3-9 while tracking all 6 (the gave it 6 control channels) fox-3 is very imbalance.
also as any M29 it’s good at low distances, where R-77 are better than AIM-120.
And yes, if your plane not climbing good and not so good at heights - not climb to space. Every plane in game has it’s own place.
So you have 2 gameplays: not so effective with lauching R-77 from 30km distance and staying notched untill R-77 lock their targets(Better F-14 gameplay)
OR
fly low and launch them from 15-20km distance and run.
Also full R-73 gameplay is kinda fun. 13.0 M29G can mostly the same, but SPO-15 from 29G is death sentence
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aye bruh, never cook again, ty
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It still would be unfair to have the AV-8B at the same BR as the F-4F ICE. The solution I think would be raising the maximum BR to something like 14.3 or 14.7 to give some much needed breathing room for the jets that need them.
Just scrap ALL OF IT for sims, make new BR 13.3/13.7 and move supersonic fox3slingers there and other fox 3 platforms at 13.0¨like tornado, harrier and phantom…
Dont change rest. ITS HORRIBLE, whoever did these changes, never flew in sim, let alone played WT seeing what kind of abomination it is.
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It has insane drag, if you even get close to cranking that hard at any meaningful altitude, you’ll be falling out of the sky.
They’re not. Don’t let the stat-card fool you.
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It would be fair if all aircraft with Aim-120 were sent to a combat rating of 13.3 and higher. All others will remain until 13.0
@Stona_WT
1.FREE aim54A for F14a in 12.3? why not 7F for F14 but aim45A? make us great again lmao
2.F5E with 9J(can not use radar) = F5E with 9P(can use radar for lock) = F5E with 9P4 and PY3(4 all aspects missle)? u gaijin also kidding me
3.su17M2 with NO flare/chaff in 10.7? cant believe how can use this against 9L with flare, even ANY radar missle
4.F5A(china) = F5A(us) + 9P, so gaijin u mean this can equal with any F5E?
5.F16AJ, means F16A + 7F + 9L, why in 12.7 with F16 with NO aim7F, not in 13.0 with F16adf
6.and also, F16ADF(2 x 7F + 4 x 9L) = F15 (4 x 7M(same as 7F) + 4 x 9M(has IRCCM, better than 9L) in 13.0, cant belive
7.F16A MLU, same like F16ADF in air battle, but only free 9P, not 9L as other ADF
maybe this list is imperfect, need pay attention to these
and wish u all have nice work in next list :)
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I recommend that all F16A/ADF/MLU get AIM9M because AIM9M is the same class of missile as R73 in the game.
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Fairness to a nation main usually means that their nation should have the advantage.
It’s pretty much universally applicable.
Keep the flares away, for one its aehistorical, the FM isnt that competetive and the SRAAM isnt a great missile unless you can outrun of catch out something that is flareless, the only reason the F-5C hot aehistoical CMs is becuase that thing at a lower BR due to no CMs would be even more busted than it is, id rather it be at a lower BR than a higher BR with its less than great flight performance, like the F-4C the only reason is hasnt recieved aehistorical COuntermeasures is because the airframe and kit isnt that strong and is relatively easily avoidable
Ice can into bvr, with only usage of fox-3. Some better in bvr because of amraams.
But worser in everything else
Same with tornado
And no, difference in SMT and 16C is not smaller
SMT have better radar, than ICE and tornado.
Better flight perfomance
Better IR missiles
Better FOX-1(as long hand)
High caliber flares
And smt vs 16C
Worser flight perfomance
Same level of radar
Others points are the same as for ice(f3) vs smt.
is there a possibility for the F-14B to recieve its’ AIM-9M missiles now when it has been moved up to 12.7?
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