Dassault Rafale - Variants, Characteristics, Armament and Performance

and you’ll never have that until 2046 - per french law, every military disclosures takes at least 50 years.

since when is wikipedia a source?

i disproved your definition you used for an A2A missile and now you fall back to wikipedia

amazing research

i’m not using wikipedia for definition,… i’m using wiki.warthunder to show how biased the current problem is.

biased?

yeah lets just forget that the Mica is the best missile in the game

So far i’ve revised my opinion because people argue from all sides but can any of you prove that 80km is a maximum or just the results of a test with similar parameters as this test for AMRAAM :


No one can prove it so MICA could very well hit beyond that 80km number.
And since MICA is lighter, thiner and has similar burn time to AMRAAM but with more DeltaV it should achieve some close perfromances to what AMRAAM can offer unless MICA drag is that much more important.

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best of what?
getting fired at? yeah that’s true.

it’s the best missile in the game because maps are small, and people rushes mid-map without considering tactical advantages of their weaponary.

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it is the best becasue any missile fired from furter than 20km is trivial to defeat

and sub 20km is where the mica performs best

so you rather wanna keep it a 50km shitshow because it is good at short ranges?

  • rename it MICA-IR, make it IR seeker, and will have a deal.
    no more RWR warning for you and a close range intended missile that is currently made for short ranges.

where did i say that?

stop putting words into my mouth i never said

all you want is a OP missile as a crutch because:
“It is only balanced when i have the OP stuff”

huh?

please read to what i reacted to

you are putting words into my mouth i never said
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you cant be serious right now

the rafale has been the absolute meta plane for over half a year now

if you feel you are getting hold back while flying the best plane in the game iam sorry

but that is more than a skill issue

if the Mica IR is flareable you gonna complain about the seeker not being modeled correctly

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Except MICA IR doesn’t just have an IR seeker. IIR would be currently undefeatable with the current flares. And you don’t even make sense at this point because you’d be okay with a nerfed MICA IR but can’t tolerate a “nerfed” MICA EM.

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It can’t 1v16 therefore it’s clearly nerfed

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And besides @ron_23 to lighten the argument i’d say Gaijin could lift the 50km barrier at least because even without it it wouldn’t be able to reach the so much claimed 80km anyway except in perfect conditions just as you showed before. Because i agree that i can’t prove it but you’d be positive to say that testing a missile with a closure rate of 1000m/s would be very much uncommon especially if missile test procedures are standardized in NATO that’d mean france cheats for every missile they test which would make very bad marketing which is kinda contradictory.

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and i agree with that after a proper source was posted

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Mica can do 180° turns
It can in game too

yeah disagree on that one

MICA is still a very good missile in game, and while it’s true that France can take a beating at some BRs in ground, it’s not really the case in air.

I will say it again but adding such a modern Rafale was a mistake by Gaijin

Going with a F2 variant would have been far better

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Imo with missile progression, new SAMs, new weapons such as ARMs that are planned afaik… Imo F3R is kinda the best choice they had as it had a TGP compared to F2 and it allows for a plane that will last in time and allows them to Focus on ground because i dunno if you noticed but this year is clearly not under Air vehicles banner.

Does it state the type of a drone and it’s speed ?
Does it state did the drone fly perfectly straight towards the missile ?

It should self destruct at 60km at worst.
Giving it any more range based on that document could be done for balancing.