Dassault Rafale - Variants, Characteristics, Armament and Performance

75kN or 7.5 tons
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it is literally rounded up to 17k lbs

Military customer support: Mirage 2000 thrust given for M2K is 98 kN, whats your theory for the mismatch?

Why are you not converting from kn directly to pounds?*

French websites/companies often understate values and the highest values is what should be taken. There are specific examples of such.

because you can easily convert Nextons into kilograms

1N = 0.1kg (on earth)

You can easily use the calculator to convert from kilonewtons to pounds. Try that and see what you come up with.

sure show me a calculator that converts Newtons into Pounds and not Pounds force

Obviously I meant pounds-force. But there’s a reason you still haven’t done 75 kn → pounds-force.

your slide says 17000lb which is the unit for pounds and not punds force
the unit for pounds force is “lbf”

and even if i convert it into lbf it is still less than 17000lbf

This sounds much more like cherry picking in an effort to get planes buffed than anything else.

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I have also already shown you an instance where SNECMA was far too bold in its claims and ended up being completely wrong. The complete opposite of your theory

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It isn’t. There is nothing wrong with providing Gaijin devs other primary sources and then letting them decide what is more realistic or favorable. Our job is to make sure the evidences meet the threshold set by Gaijin, and if it does, then that’s all that’s needed. Gaijin already has one set of primary sources, providing them with other primary sources and letting them choose what makes the most sense is something we should all do.

I remember them trying, and then just giving up like 2 years ago.

Providing them with guesses and assumptions you know to be incorrect while hiding or ignoring information that runs counter to it, such as the STR report months ago, has only made the game worse for everyone else.


If you operate under this logic, how can you possibly explain these two stories?

It is very clear that the manufacturer did not understate any values, and simply choosing the biggest number you can find does not make any sense.

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  1. I did not make the report nor did I contribute to the report in any way.
  2. What information was deliberately hidden or ignored? You guys have been alleging malicious intent for the past week, what proof is there?

https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxCHB9pIaV7uJa7yd9Itle4z0rpJ4k4JdW

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What does any of this have to do with the Rafale STR report allegedly having information hidden or ignored?

maybe this does?

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Reading and understanding skills do not seem to be with of some people.
Discuss things as much and as long as you want, but stop with off-topic and these constant and pointless insults, seriously, its not even funny.

Reminder before Forum Mods really take actions:

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The BINGO 800/550 Warning…or you wanna tell me that a guy who claimed to went through the Cockpit footage frame by frame havent seen the bingo warning?

It got ignored bc it would have made the report invalid

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