Rafale EH should be a French Squadron or Premium later down the line (As in when something like F3R/F4.1 exists, that much later) Never to UK, who’s always demanding for more, more, more, of other nation’s things
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I couldn’t tell you about this, in the future depend on gaijin
I presume early aircraft pre-order rank 9 for france in 3 years it might Rafale M F2 Early (Marine nationale) or Rafale B F3 Early (Armée de l’air et de l’espace)
There is so much rafale variants that some might end up as event for France too, i want my serbian rafale with r77 and r27 too.
Waiting for some nation to use amram with rafale (that won’t happen).
Yes, so you contradict yourself in the same paragraph. Hence my comment.
Where did you saw that?
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Does the Rafale fighter jet have the capability to carry the AS30L missile?
Is there any mistake in the loadout diagram I found earlier?
There is a lot wrong with this and entirely made up.
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I didn’t saw any articles going into much details about the loadout, only video mentionning that was this one (in french).
For simple main condition about accepting the deal for Serbia was that rafale would use r77 and r27 because they had lot of them.
Those rafale some are b and other are c variant and those are f4.1. (Old articles mentionned f3 but most recent one only mentionned f4.1)
I tried to find some articles talking about it but i can’t most are paywalled, the company elbit is mentionned in some as it is the one that will make the compatibility with those missiles.
Serbia purchase Rafale F3.3 or F3-R standard ?
f4.1 standard
Not second hand Rafale F3 ?
https://www.defense.gouv.fr/actualites/serbie-conclut-lachat-12-rafale official gov website (even dassault didn’t say which one and on most )
So maybe second hand but upgraded
Yes it can carry one AS30L under each wing. There’s a picture of an early rafale with those lying around
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from what i’ve seen:
Rafales are new built ones (F.4) as they should be given in 2029.
the Russian R-77 and R-73 missiles would be close to useless
last time those missiles were bought in Serbia(, will make the current R-77 // R-73 missiles to be outdated and unfit to 2030’s needs.
even more considering that Serbia will be isolated from Russia if they enter EU:
Présentation de la République de Serbie - Ministère de l’Europe et des Affaires étrangères.
I mean the main point was it would be a rafale with a different missile loadout and could still be fun even if not meta at all, and yeah i had no clue if those were new built or not.
Political stuff doesn’t prevent it from being added nor missile being outdated to have him as premium squadron or event.
It would also end up as lower br compared to the tech tree f4 rafale as those would get far better missiles.
politics of course have not much impact about missiles
BUT
rocket boosters being too old for the job and risking Rafale to be blown up as soon as being fired from it - YES
Did you even knew that Serbian Airforces still uses :
RVV-AE (izdeliye 190) (variant that is reduced to 80km range) (only x82 missiles in serbia bought in 2020)
R-27ER1 (Izdeliye 470-1E) (100km)
R-73E (which are export variant of the R-73A, with a slightly better Off-bosesight ability [±45° instead of ±40°])
as per contrat for the modernisation of MIG-29SM (which are MiG-29 9.12 basis, being upgraded to MiG-29SD then Mig-29SM – 30+ year old aircrafts which would be nearly 40 in 2029 when Rafale are planned to be percieved)
so,… in my book - no way Serbia having MiG-29 as good as F-16C block 30 will keep old missiles.
even more considering that
MICA-EM is having same range as RVV-AE
MICA-EM NG is gonna have 100km (or so it have been asked to be)
MICA-IR is better than current R-73
Rafale already integrates MICA-IR or EM (so even if France don’t allow the use of Meteor, MICA would be plausible, and this is still in discussion because the choice of the missile can be done within next 5 years)
Rafale F.3.3 is able to use Meteor(200km+ ; Fox-3) which is fairly better than R-27ER1 (100km ; Fox-1)
the 82 RVV-AE in Serbia would reach a 10 year old service before even getting onto Rafale (if ever) making those missile nearly out of lifespan (which is considered to be about 10 years for a Rocket engine such as RVV-AE does have)
then in my book, Rafale F.2 would be enough to use the current weaponnary in Serbia, while Serbia bought Rafale F.4
so,… in all cordiality i can give within this discussion, Serbian Rafale F.4 will not be armed with current weapons of the MiG-29SM.
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Even if Dassault were to allow the integration of e.g. RVV-AE onto the Rafale, it would be unlikely if not impossible to success. Iran failed to integrate R-73 and R-27 into the F-14, which was arguably significantly less technologically advanced and NATO-compliant than the Rafale today.
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Spoiler
I knew about R-73 but R-27? why do we have those in game as options for F-14A IRIAF then?
Were you not refering to R-77 instead?
EDIT: i found some places saying the same as you, my bad
Project TOFAN
2nd EDIT : seems like F-14AM will be able to fire R-73 in the end - some Iranian ranked personnal said that AWG-9 will get replaced allowing the R-73 to enter service
I hope we get to see this skin, reminds me a lot of the EAP skin also which makes some sense given the aircraft both were around the same time.
The closer we get to perhaps getting this aircraft the more eagerly I await the multitude of bug reports that will ensure the aircraft performs to its maximum in-game. (I am also seriously curious as to the best-estimate of its flight performance using public sources so I particularly look forward to reading those reports).
Although it’s always a nice skin, IMO we already got a taste of that with the 4000…
No, as far as I’m concerned, if there’s one skin, above all else, that I want for the Rafale…
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