Dassault Rafale - Variants, Characteristics, Armament and Performance

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The bare minimum requirement (unless its soviet) is for evidence of at least one test fire.

For example SRAAM never entered service but was test fired 8 times. Now we have evidence of it being test fired, a Spear-3 Suggestion has been put in. Etc etc.

So just need that evidence and there is nothing stopping it from being suggested.

Though…

Means it would either come with the a MICA EM Seeker just with the better range or not at all until we had equal performance weapons for everyone else.

everyone gets unfinished ships

XM vehicles for the US

what are you arguing lol

In game, I’m not sure it would make that much of a difference aside from a longer range internal radar, I don’t know if the AESA can be used for multi tracking/search when it’s in IOG, and even then it’s probably Gaijin wouldn’t go that far on the modeling.

It is also harder to chaff/notch

that it isnt just russia that gets prototype stuff

he didn’t exclude anything he just used Russia as an example

Give me an unfinished ship in UK or French BW Tree. I’m pretty sure that US also have no unfinished ship in thheir BW tree. Weird how only axis forces get the treatment.

In anyway this is Rafale thread. We should stop this.

bc there arent as many shpis to add and lots of those got bombed while being in construction

AFAIK, in game, all radars notch the same at a set speed, from the broken CAPTOR Mto the AESA RBE2

they have different “notch gates”? I think that is the right term.

MICA EM is already the hardest of all the ARH missiles to notch because it has the only unique seeker and has a smaller “notch gate”

And some radars are extremely hard to notch like the Foxhunter on the F3, but its pretty trivial against other radars like the one in the mig-23.

I imagine that a AESA equipped AAM would be far far harder to notch than one with only a PD radar.

Plus AESA seeker would have LPI so technicaally you may not even detect in on RWR.

Yeah, assuming that was modeled though.

AESA seeker might be harder to jam in the future as well if/when it comes to AESA radars as well as if jamming is added.

Currently no, it’s mostly useful against RWRs (LPI radar), jamming and countermeasures, and to a lesser extent stealth features.

In any case i don’t see this missile coming anytime soon, Current MICA with a fix to its range would already be more than enough (hell it’s already enough in its current state)

As to notching, i can’t really prove it, but signal processing came a long way since the 60s, and i don’t think simply turning 90° will do anything to even a 90s seeker, but it will bleed the missile of its energy

I know many people attribute the notch difficulties of the MICA to the notch angle, but from experience, it’s not harder to notch than before the changes to the seeker. At least the changes are not significant.
The difficulty of notching the MICA mainly lies in its speed, as the faster a missile goes, the better the notch needs to be to make the apparent deltaV inside the notch values of the missiles

MiG 23 doesn’t use the same type of radar as the in game modern radars tho.

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i heard that we have the best variant or the 2nd best variant of rafale in the game is this true ?. what upgrades can we expect in the next variant of rafale that can be added to wt ? and which variant do we have in game ? is it the F 3R ?

I mean i guess so yeah, the changes for the existing f4.1 (1000kg hammer mostly but not that useful) are not that big from what i remember, otherwise until f4.2 with mica ng there won’t be much of an upgrade and we will have to wait a long time for the planned f5 standard.

Otherwise Gaijin could always add older rafale with pesa radar instead of the aesa one starting at f3r.

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