Dassault Rafale - Variants, Characteristics, Armament and Performance

[quartas121]

Has it been tested and launched before? Or is it even worse than Kh-38MT

[DirectSupport]

We still need the Al-Tariq glide bombs that a French Rafale F3R was seen with

[quartas121]

Ooh what’s the guidance on those and how many can the Rafale carry?

[PARDUS_IX]

Apparently it’s currently being evaluated behind closed doors by the french defence department. when they finish evaluation. I’ll bet photos from testing will show up just like the early aasm hammer tests.

I think is funny how sead has turned into flinging as manny smart weapon swarms into an area of contention to overwhelm air defences and hope that a few don’t get intercepted and destroy the mobile shorad vehicles like pantsir and or the radar of the larger non mobile systems.

[quartas121]

I’m guessing Smart cruiser will be a couple years after then. And if there is no accessible proof of it being successfully launched then I don’t think they can add it

[WreckingAres283]

If at all just two. It has not been integrated yet, same with SmartGlider.

[quartas121]

Thanks.

Looks like the rafale is a bit short on addable options for high volume FNF

[MythicPi]

@DirectSupport

EFT was regularly regarded as the best vehicle in the game with Rafales being “just fine”

We’ve already had this discussion. EFT and Rafale were both considered to be better than all the competition, but which jet was considered superior was dependent on the player and their preferences, with the actual numbers supporting yhat the Rafale had always been the best jet in air to air combat overall.

You have a skewed view of history to support your biased views on the subject, as you (and most of the ppl in this thread) have constantly stated the Rafale was never anything but balanced in-game, either implicitly or explicitly.

@DirectSupport

I challenge you to find any YouTuber having regarded the Rafale on launch as the best vehicle in the game.

The Rafale Contends With The Best | War Thunder

Granted his opinion is that he personally thinks the Rafale is the best, but thinks there is an argument ti be made for other jets in 16v16, which is something I’ve echoed many times.

[PARDUS_IX]

like the israeli f15 E-I ingame might get 28 ir guided spice 250!
which have gnss and terminal IR tracking

[quartas121]

Yep, F-15E’s, F-16’s, and F/A-18’s with GBU-53 as well. Maybe SPEAR 3 on Typhoons but that’s technically a cruise missile and much newer.

Hopefully news about successful smartglider test will be released soon

[PARDUS_IX]

thats why they are adding more potent spaa next update

[MythicPi]

@DirectSupport

If it happened to be second best in class then what would be the first best in class?

Su-30SM is best in class missile load, and arguably in missile quality as well for example. Im not sure why you’re struggling to understand something as simple as this?

@DirectSupport

Except HMDs was never a balancing measure. Vehicles simply get HMDs regardless if they’re the best or not so long as they had been tested as the bare minimum.

Thats not true, seeing as both F-14 and F-15A tested VTAS HMD’s and dont have them in-game.

@DirectSupport

same for Mirage 2000-5F which were added before Gripen A as well.

Pretty sure I have supported the HMD removal on the M2K5F along with the extra missiles being removed as well.

@DirectSupport

you haven’t been consistent

I have, im not sure why you keep pretending I havent.

@DirectSupport

never called for its removal prior to me bringing it up

See below response:

@MythicPi

Some of us just arent chronically online.

I’ve already said my stance on the Gripen and M2K HMDs and Im rarely/never actually looking at those threads cuz I dont like those jets as much as I do the Rafale, nor are they remotely as broken as the Rafale is, so wasting the little time I spend on the forums partaking in those threads is not something I plan on doing.

@DirectSupport

By the time we’re done arguing about this, proper counterparts to the Rafale is likely to be added.

I mean, the only 2 ways this argument ends are if

1. An actual counterpart to the Rafale is added
2. You (by some miracle) stop pretending the jet isnt absurdly broken right now and begin trying to have constructive discussions on what could be done in the interim of point 1 occuring

So yeah, i guess.

@DirectSupport

Also, my previous argument stating that the Rafale is fine as is currently was never addressed.

Its a stupid argument, as the Rafale is beyond fine as is, seeing as its absurdly broken, and im pretty sure at this point nobody argues that point beyond the french mains like you who have no actual experience in other top tier jets. Theres no point in arguing with ppl who live in some sort of alternate reality, much like I dont argue with flat earthers on the shape of the planet.

[DirectSupport]

@MythicPi

Su-30SM is best in class missile load, and arguably in missile quality as well for example. Im not sure why you’re struggling to understand something as simple as this?

It’s just a simple question out of curiosity.

@MythicPi

Thats not true, seeing as both F-14 and F-15A tested VTAS HMD’s and dont have them in-game.

Would you have link to said bug reports?

@MythicPi

Its a stupid argument, as the Rafale is beyond fine as is, seeing as its absurdly broken.

Perhaps you didn’t see what I said, since it doesn’t address what I said.

[Surbaissemaxxing]

Al-Tariq is a South African (Denel) and Tawazun Dynamics conversion kit, which can have either IIR or laser guidance. I don’t think the Rafale ever used them though

[Flame2512]

@DirectSupport

inconspicuously missing when it comes to Eurofighter threads for the dual AIM-9 pylons which supposedly only Spain uses in service

Plenty of documents from the national archives show the UK planned on having TMC capability on their Eurofighters.

Also in the requirements document there is a table for all the optional features of the aircraft, and it can be seen that all four nations selected the TMC option.

That seems to have been adequate evidence for Gaijin.

[WreckingAres283]

@PARDUS IX@live

UAE Rafale f3’s do, and the French F3 shown off at a Dubai airshow had them mounted

Laying under the wing =/= mounted.

[dotSHINI]

would that count we could increase other aircrafts armaments by a lot xD

[PARDUS_IX]

oh, didn’t see the cart

[Spil1tia-psn]

saying the plane being op is fine because its in a minor tree is certainly one of the takes ive ever seen

[MythicPi]

“Its ok if the Rafale is OP because gaijin gets to make money at the expense of player enjoyment, bcuz it doesn’t effect me cuz I only play France :)”