Dassault Rafale - Variants, Characteristics, Armament and Performance

Cool? I’ve played the EFT at release, I never had much luck with it in BVR until recently when they implemented “TWS+” so yes, there’s not much discussion to be had here, I’ve actually experienced EFTs evolution in this game firsthand, as it’s gone from a 1on1 beast but a meh BVR duelist to a good 1on1 jet and okay’ish BVR duelist. I actually know what it was good at and what it wasn’t good at, so I’m not simply simplifying it all to “muh best jet” like many others for the sake of an internet argument.

You on the other hand, haven’t.

Yes, I actually dont think the 141 should be in-game at all?

If it happened to be second best in class then what would be the first best in class?

Except HMDs was never a balancing measure. Vehicles simply get HMDs regardless if they’re the best or not so long as they had been tested as the bare minimum.

It’s good to know where you stand on this but it still stands that in practice you haven’t been consistent and also never called for its removal prior to me bringing it up, same for Mirage 2000-5F which were added before Gripen A as well.

By the time we’re done arguing about this, proper counterparts to the Rafale is likely to be added.

Also, my previous argument stating that the Rafale is fine as is currently was never addressed.

The Rafale should definitely get the MBDA “SmartGlider and SmartCruiser” when everyone else gets their new TV/IR guided glide/cruising bombs that were leaked last dev server like Israel getting the spice 250, and US getting Stormbreaker.

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Isn’t it just a 3D render?

Has it been tested and launched before? Or is it even worse than Kh-38MT

We still need the Al-Tariq glide bombs that a French Rafale F3R was seen with

Ooh what’s the guidance on those and how many can the Rafale carry?

Apparently it’s currently being evaluated behind closed doors by the french defence department. when they finish evaluation. I’ll bet photos from testing will show up just like the early aasm hammer tests.

I think is funny how sead has turned into flinging as manny smart weapon swarms into an area of contention to overwhelm air defences and hope that a few don’t get intercepted and destroy the mobile shorad vehicles like pantsir and or the radar of the larger non mobile systems.

I’m guessing Smart cruiser will be a couple years after then. And if there is no accessible proof of it being successfully launched then I don’t think they can add it

If at all just two. It has not been integrated yet, same with SmartGlider.

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Thanks.

Looks like the rafale is a bit short on addable options for high volume FNF

We’ve already had this discussion. EFT and Rafale were both considered to be better than all the competition, but which jet was considered superior was dependent on the player and their preferences, with the actual numbers supporting yhat the Rafale had always been the best jet in air to air combat overall.

You have a skewed view of history to support your biased views on the subject, as you (and most of the ppl in this thread) have constantly stated the Rafale was never anything but balanced in-game, either implicitly or explicitly.

Granted his opinion is that he personally thinks the Rafale is the best, but thinks there is an argument ti be made for other jets in 16v16, which is something I’ve echoed many times.

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like the israeli f15 E-I ingame might get 28 ir guided spice 250!
which have gnss and terminal IR tracking

Yep, F-15E’s, F-16’s, and F/A-18’s with GBU-53 as well. Maybe SPEAR 3 on Typhoons but that’s technically a cruise missile and much newer.

Hopefully news about successful smartglider test will be released soon

thats why they are adding more potent spaa next update

Su-30SM is best in class missile load, and arguably in missile quality as well for example. Im not sure why you’re struggling to understand something as simple as this?

Thats not true, seeing as both F-14 and F-15A tested VTAS HMD’s and dont have them in-game.

Pretty sure I have supported the HMD removal on the M2K5F along with the extra missiles being removed as well.

I have, im not sure why you keep pretending I havent.

See below response:

I mean, the only 2 ways this argument ends are if

  1. An actual counterpart to the Rafale is added
  2. You (by some miracle) stop pretending the jet isnt absurdly broken right now and begin trying to have constructive discussions on what could be done in the interim of point 1 occuring

So yeah, i guess.

Its a stupid argument, as the Rafale is beyond fine as is, seeing as its absurdly broken, and im pretty sure at this point nobody argues that point beyond the french mains like you who have no actual experience in other top tier jets. Theres no point in arguing with ppl who live in some sort of alternate reality, much like I dont argue with flat earthers on the shape of the planet.

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It’s just a simple question out of curiosity.

Would you have link to said bug reports?

Perhaps you didn’t see what I said, since it doesn’t address what I said.

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Al-Tariq is a South African (Denel) and Tawazun Dynamics conversion kit, which can have either IIR or laser guidance. I don’t think the Rafale ever used them though

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