Id be surprised if it couldnt, tho seeing as gaijin currently pretends there are no TDL’s in-game, I’m not sure how you’d talk them into adding something that would explicitly require a TDL to function. We’d also be getting in the territory of potential game engine limitations.
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I mean the game is able to model the range of the MAWS, and then any missiles in a spot where the 2 MAWS ranges overlap would get ranging info on MAWS screen from “triangulation”.
But I think they should add TDL soon, it’s a very important part of modern jet combat
These two sentences likely aren’t mutually exclusive is my point.
The former sentence makes the latter true: “The advantage [of sensor fusion] is… that deviations are exluded. With that you achieve a higher accuracy.”
Unless there’s any definitive evidence, I stand by my original statement.
No, I just think it depends on outdated technology when viable, more modern and effective solutions exist. This is true.
Reposting @Zayf report since it got drowned out by discussions and I think it deserves more attention.
Rafale wrong medium speed acceleration // Gaijin.net // Issues
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So you’re just wilfully ignoring the stuff I posted yesterday about how Eurofighter can fuse IRST & radar data to produce more accurate target locations?
And yes there are other sources but that is just what I have to hand at this moment in time.
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I believe he did comment on that already stating that PIRATE has range-error issues due to lack of LRF, and thus the data supplied by the IRST to the radar would not be as useful. That is my understanding of the conversation.
In that text it is mentioned that all sensors are connected to each other explicitly calling it sensor fusion…
The AIS system is gathering information from all sensors and is analysing them to create a tactical overview of the situation.
The pilot does not need to compare single notifications/gauges anymore. The part about exluded deviations is an aside.
It is also mentioned that all systems: Radar, IRST, DASS, Helmet sight and Datalink are interconnected and exchanging information. The effects regarding target acquisician are mentioned as an example.
It concludes that all in all the pilot is being relieved, all sensors are being utilised to the maximum, which contributes significantly to Eurofighters combat power.
There really is no reason to doubt that sensor fusion is a integral component of Eurofighters avionics suite.
It is true that passive ranging will not be as accurate as active ranging. Which is basically what he said previously.
However, his most recent statement is that:
the Rafale uses data fusion to improve threat localisation
While the:
Eurofighter can only use sensor fusion to eliminate any deviations in collected data, e.g. PIRATE mistakenly detects a cloud as an IR target but through ‘sensor fusion with the radar,’ such a false alarm would be eliminated.
So he is essentially saying that the Eurofighter, cannot combine data from multiple sensors to improve the accuracy of the target’s location. That is contradictory to the source which states:
When the two sets of data are fused, a more accurate location of the target is formed.
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Interestingly, this source confirms that not only is radar used to merge data with the IRST/TV, but the RWR can also provide better tracking to the IRST even if the target is outside of LRF range.
Except fuel load (and aircraft total weight) is known for the test I did.
This is merely plotting a point on a map through range and bearing. Not any sort of improved 3D target localisation which is found on the Rafale and which is the Eurofighter is incapable of.
Sure, Eurofighter has sensor fusion, it’s just nowhere near as capable or extensive as the Rafale’s. Which brings me back to my original point:
Is there any source on the accuracy of the RWR? I wonder if the Rafale could achieve sufficient weapons lock without the use of radar or laser rangefinder. But that seems unlikely.
I don’t know if this is new, but in sim the optronic automatically choose, select and follow enemy target (on the optronic mfd) without any input from the pilot?
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Yes, the RWR is capable of providing 3D coordinates, and thus can provide air to air or air to ground targeting as a result. These 3D coordinates can be supplied to the IRST if the laser range-finder is not within range (40km).
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Can you give an example? The optronic should be cued by the radar/IRST. So if you select targets or switch targets with those sensors then the TV camera sensor follows it.
Although there’s a little bit of a bug when it comes to the optronic being cued right now:
TV Camera no longer properly slaves to radar (BUG) // Gaijin.net // Issues
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Might be this, because i never used the tv sensor before (in my experience the infrared mfd never followed any plane, it was just howering around), but i was using AASM with designator pod, and it wouldn’t let use the designator pod and forced me to use the TV with the lock on the enemy plane landing instead of ground target camera
The radar can provide more accurate range information than the IRST. While the IRST can provide more accurate angular (Azimuth & Elevation) information than the radar.
As an example: By combining the range information from the radar and the Azimuth / Elevation information from the IRST the Eurofighter is able to more accurately determine the location of the target in 3D space, than would be possible using either sensor by themselves.
Is that not literally the definition of “improved 3D target localisation”?
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Maybe if the target were floating in space…
yeah but you cannot forget the other part of the sentece just because you dont like it
and also dont ignore how both deepseek and chatgpt translated that sentece
it never says it is only eliminating deviations it says it is ALSO doing it
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I don’t know if anyone has reported this yet, but the Scorpion HMD has lost its first-person view designation point since the last update.
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