Could you please respond to this then:
Just so we can be sure there aren’t any double standards going on here.
I have already responded and you have quoted that response in your post here. This is one source the developers used and was one shared on the closure of the report.
I do not have all sources the developers used to model the IRST of the Eurofighter or Rafale.
Would you please be able to get back to us with the sources used by the developers? Because based on all the information available, it appears the devs are giving the Eurofighter preferential treatment to try and not make it completely worse than the Rafale.
No aircraft has been given " preferential treatment" and the Rafale has actually already had more corrections deployed than the Eurofighter in total to date. Work has been roughly equal on both.
Should you have more sources to show the IRST is somehow incorrect on the Eurofighter and wish to submit a report on that, the developers will need to provide whatever they used to decide the values in game if they don’t agree with whatever new information you have within that report.
However this is a Rafale thread, not a Eurofighter thread.
Then could you please pass this report: Community Bug Reporting System so we can all see what the devs respond with?
Because this presentation is not a source, and whoever rejected the report has no understanding of what “B-Scope” or “PPI” actually presents to the pilot in the Eurofighter.
This report has already been responded too.
A new report with new information is more than welcome.
The person who responded has no idea what they are talking about. 120° x 45° is the maximum that can be achieved with dual scanning mechanisms. “B-Scope” and “PPI” also does not show just the IRST but rather all data collected across a 140° frontal arc; ergo, the azimuth limits for the IRST are not shown in the attached presentation.
The bug report manager has rejected the report based on their own misunderstandings and misinterpretations not any actual facts.
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What about the HMD on the Rafale or the 2 extra missile Pylons?
That isnt preferential treatment?
It was never in service with the French Air Force and was used by India,
so if the EF gets “preferential treatment” why didnt it get the extra Aim120’s on the inner wing pylons or the double Pylons for them, that are in the files, or the IRST on the german EF.
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Just rename it to the Indian variant then if it makes you feel any better…
Then Britain won’t be able to get it lol. Besides, most people would have preferred Micas buffed anyway.
Because there’s no evidence of them ever being mounted? Just like double underbelly Micas for the Rafale:
But it makes the Eurofighters unique to each other :))))
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just saying that the EF side of the communtiy feels like that about the rafale as well
I honestly hope that britain isnt getting the Indian Rafale or Su-30MKI, they dont need it and dont deserve it.
I mean they already have the gripen and EF, if they would also get the Rafale and Su-30 there would be no need to play any other nations, at that point we could also give them the f-15 f-16, f-18, Abrams, Leapard, T-90…
…I think you get it.
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we need both the EF and Rafale to get send into Ukrain so somebody can make pictures of those loadouts, for the WT buff ^^
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Nah fr tho. Ukraine already leaked us an Abrams manuals, a (newer) EFT manual or Rafale manual doesn’t sound so bad.
dont they both use the same radar?
As far as i remember the f4 has a better radar compared to the f3r.
Yeah, when looking at the gripen seeing it in every other tree is sad, at least France had a better treatment on this and kept for example the mirage 2k5f for a while only in their tree tho i don’t believe rafale will come in any of the current tree in the game, there is nothing after and would ruin the air with a bad ground currently.
I have no problem having the rafale going in new tree or subtree part of new tree as long as we don’t begin to have thing like gripen e, rafale in the same tree etc it would ruin everything or for example saudi f15 + saudi eurofighter + saudi rafale (it may not be saudi and i may be thinking about another country).
I said the exact same thing and nobody came after me so I doubt that’s all you said. Minus the HMD part.
Pretty sure that’s all I said back when this whole mess started. Could be wrong. Pretty sure I also said the 8x MICA + HMD “because it was tested” while German EFT not getting PIRATE “because it was only tested” was a blatant double standard and obvious preferential treatment of the Rafale as well, though I stand by that comment (my stance on both being neither should have equipment tested but not implemented on these respective variants in their respective air forces IRL).
Ive had other discussions since then, such as about the IFF’s capabilities (wherein I was proved wrong, but not in a “the Rafale has a unique feature nobody else has” but in a “IFF has been doing that in military jets since the F-4, so its not actually special at all” kind of way, which was an interesting new thing to learn and apologized as well as the Rafales MAWS blind spot, but those came after everyone had already dogpiled on me.
Yeah i looked and it’s only a small software update and about radar i don’t see why everyone whine about it when the rafale can’t use it in a meaningful way with the mica missile.
Those have already been explained 50 times and those are gaijin rules, it did both tested the different hmd and could carry the additionnal missiles, if there was a conflict you would see rafale f3r with the ability to carry mica missiles in those spots too because there was no change needed.
If you want to whine at gaijin to follow a different path sure, but don’t begin to repeat such things and i’m sure lot of aircraft could be called “f4.1” compared to what they should be you are just focusing way too much on the rafale that is all, if i remember right the gripen in the swedish tech tree should not have an hmd for example at least for the first version.
So like i said before this leads nowhere we are too far for such change to ever be remotely possible and if you were supporting historical you would not whine all time for the german eurofighter to get PIRATE, it has been years that the typhoon is a thing, it is fair that Germany does not get it if they never ever used it in all the life of the plane, eurofighter would be like 3 years old or something no one would care about it possibly coming on it but life is life and Germany made sure to actively not use it.
The Gripen A should most definitly have its HMD removed, particularly now that it sits at 13.0 with a bunch of other jets that dont have HMD’s.
I was simply pointing out that you stating France would need the F4.1 standard if it didn’t get its HMD and 8 missiles was factually wrong, as the standard in-game is, gameplay-wise, already an F4.1. and that if it DIDNT have the 8 MICA’s and HMD, it WOULDNT be an F4.1, so your point was entirely contradictory. I’m not the only person to hold such views, the person who literally made the suggestion post for the F4.1 said so as well.
I LITERALLY just said I didn’t want the German EFT to get PIRATE.
What I DID say is that it is a blatant double standard in terms of justification for implementation. You’re literally trying to start an argument for nothing.
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Then it’s the wrong person that i assumed it was and i did not tried to read after reading seeing PIRATE in, my bad then, i am sorry to not have read fully your message.