i have a question, is the Rafale supposed to have more chaff or was that like a rumor?
same as the 2000-5 iirc
alright
Rafale EH (F3-R standard) from Indian Air Force (IAF) equipped TALIOS or Litening targeting pod with present ?
I have questioned for so long 🤔
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From what I could find, the chaff dispensers are the identical ones from the m2k (the spirale ICDs), just rotated. But the other store is the modular one we argued over small/large. I tried to find info on countermeasure pods but left with more questions than answers, supposedly the French have around 6 different types in service including the Swedish BOL pods, but couldn’t find any info on what they use it on. But I’m also terrible at looking up sources, you might have better luck. I’de happily trade a MICA pylon for a pod in 16v16 personally.
Theres also the fact that the m4k was the testbed for alot of rafale things, and it utilizes those weird countermeasure pods that house both modular and 2 ICDs each, though the ICDs don’t function on the m4k despite being accepted months ago, so no 120 large chaff :(. I wouldn’t be surprised if those could work on the Rafale, but all I could find is one document referring to their name and when searching found no other information on it.
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A lot of the countermeasure pods produced by France are prototyped on M2Ks and could theoretically be reported to be used on the Mirages. I have yet to see any for Rafales. Sources do state however that there’s discussions among the French to consider adding more integrated countermeasures to the Rafale F.5, no clarification if they’re discussing the Spirale part or what exactly
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The pods on the M4K are the Sycomor system, which feature 7 modular buckets (7x8 large caliber in game) in addition to 2 Spirale styled ICDs, but it’s hard to find documentation outside of what has already been supported; before the rug was pulled out from under us and the ‘implementation once countermeasures releases are separated’ was changed to ‘forwarded as a suggestion’ never to see the light of day again. I’m unsure of the pods’ compatibility with the M2K or Rafale, although I do believe they are compatible with the F1.
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I believe the ICDs in game are normal caliber chaffs. Are you saying that the ICD should drop large caliber here ?
If so, that could be interesting to try to report. I know the classification for large and normal caliber flares but not chaffs
Who’s using a gun…get within 8-5km of a Rafale and it’s a death sentence MICA EM are spicy
What prevents launch AIM-120 further than 10km?
Nothing, but the opponent will have the time and opportunity to evade it beyond that distance even if he is head-on and above multipath height.
It is a function; if the opponent is at an altitude above 50m and traveling towards you, he has no time to evade when the missile is launched from closer distances.
I’m quite disturbed with the current state of the AASM.
The gnss one has tendency to overshoot it’s target when launch from 30 km
The gnss+ir always overshoot if the target doesn’t appear on the seeker during it’s flight path which happen all the time when you use it at really long range because the missile will loft and activate the seeker before it started to dive on the Target (if it is not affected by the same problem of the gnss only)
I don’t have the laser one yet
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yup, it’s most likely a guidance issue, afaik all three variants behave the same at long ranges, where they overshoot and have to pull hard backwards to hit their target
problem is known, made a bug report a few weeks ago here : Community Bug Reporting System 18
How easy they are to defeat, see the missile come up notch it chaff, wait for RWR to go off more chaff pull up or dive…missile will in most cases miss
As it’s IOG guidance is looking for where it thinks you should be.
The Rafale dodges your 120 while closing the distance and shooting MICAs at you, from angles the Typhoons missile cannot match.
1 v 1 the Rafale beats the Typhoon, in a standard load out and not guns only
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We know the IRST has a simultaneous function with the TV sensor in where the TV sensor can provide range, even with multiple targets being tracked. The TV sensor itself is capable of multi-target tracking with laser range-finder.
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Rafale should have stronger landing gear brakes // Gaijin.net // Issues
All thanks to @Mulatu_Astatke for providing both sources.
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Your own post indicates the TV sensors laser rangefinder is limited to 40km.
I refered to the IRST seperately because its its own seperate sensor and because you did so as well. Thats literally why I said:
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I’m well aware of this. It is why I didn’t state “guide”, but simply just fire.
Gaijin most likely could provide degraded capabilities beyond 40km with better capabilities and guidance within 40km, this is up until the Rafale F.5 which is said to offer double the laser range. It may or may not have passive ranging, I haven’t looked too deep into this, but the developers have stated something to the tune of, passive ranging requiring the host aircraft to commit maneuvers and so there is downsides to passive ranging.
Rafale radar display should always show friendlies // Gaijin.net // Issues
Thanks again to @Mulatu_Astatke for a source of his.
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Which is also what I said, sooo you’re either arguing to argue or just restating exactly what I said, but in an ambiguous way for some reason.
Posting this response here as well, but this bug report is an incorrect understanding of what the sources are stating. Saying this can be done irrespective of the radar or datalink makes no sense. The IFF interrogator generally uses the radar for its function, but can also use other sources, such as radio wave (ie; datalink system) or IIR systems. You could argue the Rafales IRST/TV sensor could do IFF, but saying the Rafale should magically display all friendly target locations at all time regardless of them being picked up by a sensor or receiving datalink data is wrong.
All its really saying is that the cumulative data acquired and fused allows the aircraft to display friendlies at all times IF there is a source of data providing their location. In-game datalink does not exist (except in the rafale, A-10C, and M2K5D-RMV’s HMD’s), which means the RWR or radar would have to do the work.
Could also argue that the Rafales is missing a display mode which combines radar and RWR contacts in one display as well, I dont have the Rafale yet, so not sure what its MFD’s do and dont do.
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