Dassault Rafale - Variants, Characteristics, Armament and Performance

Okey this explain a lot, thx

Not saying it isn’t gimped file wise, but I still think the bug is the main source of its range issues (right now). If it falls back to earth after 20km theres not much exploding after 50km does to make it worse. Either way, it still fails to reach half of its advertised range, in a range meta :/

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That’s so sad. Always double check for those ! That’s why I usually download files on my computer and then drag and drop. It’s fail proof

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i have a question, is the Rafale supposed to have more chaff or was that like a rumor?

same as the 2000-5 iirc

alright

Rafale EH (F3-R standard) from Indian Air Force (IAF) equipped TALIOS or Litening targeting pod with present ?

I have questioned for so long 🤔

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From what I could find, the chaff dispensers are the identical ones from the m2k (the spirale ICDs), just rotated. But the other store is the modular one we argued over small/large. I tried to find info on countermeasure pods but left with more questions than answers, supposedly the French have around 6 different types in service including the Swedish BOL pods, but couldn’t find any info on what they use it on. But I’m also terrible at looking up sources, you might have better luck. I’de happily trade a MICA pylon for a pod in 16v16 personally.

Theres also the fact that the m4k was the testbed for alot of rafale things, and it utilizes those weird countermeasure pods that house both modular and 2 ICDs each, though the ICDs don’t function on the m4k despite being accepted months ago, so no 120 large chaff :(. I wouldn’t be surprised if those could work on the Rafale, but all I could find is one document referring to their name and when searching found no other information on it.

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A lot of the countermeasure pods produced by France are prototyped on M2Ks and could theoretically be reported to be used on the Mirages. I have yet to see any for Rafales. Sources do state however that there’s discussions among the French to consider adding more integrated countermeasures to the Rafale F.5, no clarification if they’re discussing the Spirale part or what exactly

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The pods on the M4K are the Sycomor system, which feature 7 modular buckets (7x8 large caliber in game) in addition to 2 Spirale styled ICDs, but it’s hard to find documentation outside of what has already been supported; before the rug was pulled out from under us and the ‘implementation once countermeasures releases are separated’ was changed to ‘forwarded as a suggestion’ never to see the light of day again. I’m unsure of the pods’ compatibility with the M2K or Rafale, although I do believe they are compatible with the F1.

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I believe the ICDs in game are normal caliber chaffs. Are you saying that the ICD should drop large caliber here ?

If so, that could be interesting to try to report. I know the classification for large and normal caliber flares but not chaffs

Who’s using a gun…get within 8-5km of a Rafale and it’s a death sentence MICA EM are spicy

What prevents launch AIM-120 further than 10km?

Nothing, but the opponent will have the time and opportunity to evade it beyond that distance even if he is head-on and above multipath height.

It is a function; if the opponent is at an altitude above 50m and traveling towards you, he has no time to evade when the missile is launched from closer distances.

I’m quite disturbed with the current state of the AASM.

The gnss one has tendency to overshoot it’s target when launch from 30 km

The gnss+ir always overshoot if the target doesn’t appear on the seeker during it’s flight path which happen all the time when you use it at really long range because the missile will loft and activate the seeker before it started to dive on the Target (if it is not affected by the same problem of the gnss only)

I don’t have the laser one yet

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yup, it’s most likely a guidance issue, afaik all three variants behave the same at long ranges, where they overshoot and have to pull hard backwards to hit their target

problem is known, made a bug report a few weeks ago here : Community Bug Reporting System 18

How easy they are to defeat, see the missile come up notch it chaff, wait for RWR to go off more chaff pull up or dive…missile will in most cases miss
As it’s IOG guidance is looking for where it thinks you should be.

The Rafale dodges your 120 while closing the distance and shooting MICAs at you, from angles the Typhoons missile cannot match.

1 v 1 the Rafale beats the Typhoon, in a standard load out and not guns only

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