I understand and can see the rationale behind your point. However several aircraft from the time use PESA’s though it is undeniable the Eurofighter was late to the electronically scanned playing field (though you could argue it has paid off).
I don’t think we need to continue that line any further, I was just curious if there was any direct point of comparison.
Though I do find it interesting that there are AESA’s with M-Scan functions, if the only service AESA radars mounted on M-Scan gimbals are Raven and ECRS.
I’ve done some of my own looking, but obviously no public figures and unfortunately (to what I can tell) there are no public ‘guesstimate figures’ such as the ‘RCS the size of a sparrow’ statement, about the performance of MICA.
Unfortunately Gaijin doesn’t allow what I would call ‘common sense’ assumptions so we will have to see if they will allow it to be implemented as ‘MICA EM but better in every conceivable metric’
There are already multiple sources about its kinetic performance, and a bug report can be done once/if it comes into the game. What’s not known however is the seeker performances.
Gaijin will have to completely make up the seeker performance unless new information comes to light in between now and when it arrives into the game.
Of course, but i’m pretty sure that Rafale in QRA 5 &10 in France doesn’t necessarly use the Tandem Fuel tanks on wing pylons, and that it have been thinked to be useful for some kind of AA Weaponary
Yet nothing been approved,…
However, you can found some charts about using AM-39 Exocets instead of fuels tanks (on each 3 pylons)
I don’t think there would be a Dual Pylon (yet) for AAM’s, but i think that it might be possible to at least mount 2 MICA-IR on those pylon ^^" (mostly because those needs less information from Weaponary system in a short range combat use)
As said many times, these charts are made up - Exocet is only carried on the belly. Only one or two pre-production prototypes carried APACHE / SCALP-EG on the current fuel tank pylons, but even production Rafale never carried anything else than fuel or air (nothing) on these pylons.
I recently found smth that suggests that F.5 might get approved to carry missiles on the two underwing pylons but we have to wait for official information.
Dual Meteor rails are in development iirc, yet unknown whether France wants to integrate them or not.
FC/ASW (or to be more precise, Future Anti Ship Weapon in this case)
It will be implemented on the F5 variant of the Rafale, and some sources even state it COULD (very hypothetical) have an anti awacs role as well
Reminder that MP in-game is a “balancing decision” from gaijin, and occurs across all radar missiles. Testing I did puts the guaranteed miss alt at ~95m vs a M1.0 target using an AIM-7M (irl min alt of 5m), but MP does skew missile flight even above 95m, making it easier to evade missiles.
Afaik, the only thing that really impacts hit chance in MP conditions in-game are the impact angle of the missile (the steeper the impact angle, the better, as the projected MP return is below the target), and warhead size/radius, but even then its a bit of a coin toss imo.
MICA isn’t exactly special in the fact it shouldnt really have MP in-game. most/all top tier radar missiles should be largely resistant to MP, with stuff like AIM-54 and 7M having min alts around 5m, skyflash having something like 33m guaranteed min alt vs any background (iirc feel free to correct me if im wrong teaboos), and R-27ER having a stated min alt of something like 20m.
The multipath issue is more “gaijin cant stop handholding bad players by giving them the single biggest, most game ruining crutch” than “gaijin doesnt realize the MICA seeker is better than what it was during the test”
my sentence was not excluding other missiles. We were specifically discussing AD4A and its derivatives… Not to mention, i don’t know the performances of other FOX3’s seekers, because i didn’t bother going for sources regarding them. Explicitely stating they are indeed underperforming would mean making a claim without being sure of what i say.
If we were on the Rumor or Typhoon thread, i would have included them. Point is, AMRAAMs, Phoenixes, R77s and what not were irrelevent to my initial message (and the thread, for that matter).
“The way it sounded” doesn’t mean anything. If i wanted to exclude other missiles, it would have been explicitely written.
Interview of François Lemainque - An old expert engineer which worked in Dassault Aviation - Recruited in 1982, he worked since the prototype of Rafale. - Video in French
Hello, I was curious as to the countermeasure count on the Rafale, I unfortunately do not speak French so having done some looking into it, I have only come out with the name of the CM’s (LIR 410/411 Series) .
How many can we expect from the 4 Chaff-flare dispensers?
