It’s always better to keep turning slightly to different directions while multipathing when missile is close. That way (at least in my experience), missile tends to hit ground earlier before reaching you and cause no damage at all or do minor/moderate damage that still let’s you fly the aircraft instead of turning you into a fireball. But terrain sometimes makes this difficult so you have to plan ahead before committing to a turn.
That is the same image I posted, so I am well aware of that document. As I pointed out it states the anechoic chambers were used for ECM testing, with no mention of RCS testing. And despite the nEUROn drone being built at Istres it was sent over 700 km away for RCS testing, which seems like an odd choice if it could have been tested on site.
I’m not saying that RCS testing is definitely not carried out at Istres, just that so far I’ve not seen anything to explicitly say it is. You’ve not provided any evidence that shows RCS testing was conducted at Istres (beyond " It’s an important place so surely they do it"), so haven’t really answered my question or added anything to the conversation.
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Would you mind sharing where this information may have come from? Istres was an older chamber and wasn’t upgraded until maybe ~2013.
Yet the Eurofighter only sought an RCS 1/4 that of the Tornado whereas the Rafale was reduced to that of a sparrow with no other facilities available?
Is 100 degrees actually true? From my exp 90 is best unless it’s a close range shot, where your plane is pulling 10-20 degrees of aoa, so your rwr lies until your aoa is 0.
in between 90 and 100 is a good span i’d say
but just notching while going in a straight line won’t be enough, because all fox 3s now have inertial guidance
I seem to recall a video made by gaijin about notching, and the notch angle was a bit over 90° in the game
before the buff though, the attacking missile would usually lose lock when i dropped chaff while it was slightly behind the 3-9 line, i don’t really know why they implemented it that way tbh
Worst case scenario;
Start at 90, chaff, pull to 100, chaff, 110, chaff
You can start to pitch up or down at 100 to change the last point of intercept - missile should be obviously lost or not at that point.
That is true.
First off, have you also cross-referenced the other chambers on the list? Allegedly the UK one with Qinetiq has some functions for RCS-measuring.
Looked further into this, it does not seem like an odd choice. In fact, the drone was “tested” for stealth in Sweden at one point. Then at another point it did some operational trials in Sweden before being sent to Italy for stealth testing. Why would they send it to Italy for stealth testing when Sweden was already capable of such a task?
It may simply just be a matter of convenience or other projects taking up time at certain chambers.
Each partner will be responsible for specific project tasks, eliminating the overlap that has bedeviled past cooperative efforts. For example, Saab will handle system design. Dassault will design the air vehicle’s fly-by-wire system; Alenia, the smart weapons bay; and CASA, the ground control station. Flight testing will be shared. Trials will start at Istres, near Marseilles, where final assembly will take place. They will then move to Sweden, for low-observability trials and weapons release, before finishing up in Italy. Radar testing at different frequencies will take place in Rennes, France.
Source: Each partner will be responsible for specific project tasks, eliminating the overlap that has bedeviled past cooperative efforts. For example, Saab will handle system design. Dassault will design the air vehicle’s fly-by-wire system; Alenia, the smart weapons bay; and CASA, the ground control station. Flight testing will be shared. Trials will start at Istres, near Marseilles, where final assembly will take place. They will then move to Sweden, for low-observability trials and weapons release, before finishing up in Italy. Radar testing at different frequencies will take place in Rennes, France.
Source: Dassault/SAAB/Alenia nEUROn UCAV | Secret Projects Forum
The nEUROn will continue to undergo testing in France until 2014, at which time it will be
sent to Vidsel in Sweden for a series of operational trials. It will then go to the Perdadesfogu
range (Italy) for further tests, in particular firing and stealth measurements.
Source: Microsoft Word - AN The nEUROn makes its maiden flight_Short.doc
Isn’t this also to show it to potential customers ? there was news about spain being interested about getting the nEUROn despite them operating eurofighter.
There is always news about every country operating Eurofighter being interested in literally anything else.
i was not implying that they would order it, but more to find a reason about it going to differents countries all the time xD
Europe is already planning on using the MALE drone once that comes online. nEUROn to my understanding is just intended to sharpen Europe’s skills when it comes to collaboration and also technology know-how when it comes to stealth (for both IR and radar). All the technological know-how will transfer over to the 6th gen programs.
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Really, then it’s weirdly explained towards the publics, all time it’s talked about nEUROn even from ex pilots/pilots or professionnal it looks like nEURON different of MALE drone.
Well thanks you for explaining.
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they’ll make something out of neuron for the F5 version of Rafale
Basically a wing man, which might also be useful for the FCAS later down the road
This and the nEURON will definitely fill different roles because the male looks like an MQ-9 Reaper contemporary whereas nEURON looks more like the basis for a loyal wingman
Indeed, not the same role at all
Until recently, Neuron was going to be only a demonstrator, but now they decided to use it as a basis for a wingman on Rafale F5 and whatever comes after that. They are possibly going to be using a single non afterburning M88.
Still speculation for now, pinch of salt, you know the drill X)
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When war thunder collab with genshin impact it’s basically 2 gacha games at that point (I need the showcased skin).
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I never expected to see Furina on the War Thunder forums, but here we are.
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https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/CVyDOzKEgByo
RBE2 AESA radar should have a 140 degree wide scan option
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/X19NjRQ5eqOZ
Rafale should reach its firing rate instantaneously.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/4xETLTWyByNc
RBE2-AESA should have combined waveforms with increased ranges
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/0vtPOzjMXNIl
Rafale missing gunport cover
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How does a fixed plate PESA scan 140 degrees might i ask
Never mind i read it wrong all good