Holy hell i just 1v1 a rafale at the end of the match, he literally fired micas point blank (0.7-0.8km) and they track, i think it’s just that you’re in a permanent notch if circle fighting and they always missed by 3-10 meters. If he got some space and managed to fire from >1 km i would have been dead
maybe you have a hidden wish to die from MICA because I can’t explain the fact that you easily deflect missiles that fly further and better than MICA
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The very earliest I can shoot AMRAAM is 20km since, and I am not exaggerating here, the radar on the eurofighter is literal trash. It cannot, and will not reliably show any targets over 20km.
Within 20km I have to use HMD PD to find targets.
Spotting currently sucks so I have to do knifefights vs Rafales.
So no, I cannot shoot earlier than a Rafale can currently
It will, it’s just that the targets it shows do not exist at least 50% of the time.
Because, as I previously said, I am FORCED to be in a knifefight because the Eurofighters radar literally does not work. I HAVE to use HMD PD and rely on dot spotting because.
again
The radar on the eurofighter is literal garbage.
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Its TWS “tracking” is also hot garbage. I’ve had it drop a track within 5 seconds of getting it, for no reason what’so’ever, but it apparently does that because its data refresh rate is not fast enough (has been bug reported).
???
You have a bad radar, so there are no problems with aim120, but there are with mica?
How does this work?
sounds like copium
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I have a bad radar, so I am forced to go close range with red aircraft.
In this close range, I have no problems defeating AMRAAM , R77 or PL12, only MICA.
How is this Copium? This is literally what MICA is designed for.
If I didnt have a total trash tier radar, I’d be at high altitude doing BVR, not letting Rafales get close
I have a feeling that you are not trying to notch and throw dipoles, but are trying to divert missiles with a maneuver, I just don’t understand what’s wrong with you.
The R-77 is roughly the same as the Mica in the game, only slightly longer-range, but less maneuverable at close range, but you have no problems with it.
I know that the Mica was created to have a range of 80 km, as a result, in the game it can’t even hit 20 sometimes, and there’s also a limit of 50 in the game (as far as I remember, it physically can’t fly further, because it’s destroyed)
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You sound like my mom, lol.
I AM trying to notch. Its all I try to do.
The EXACT reason that I am here, in this very thread, talking to you at this VERY moment is that I try to do the same thing to MICA’s as I do with every other missile but it just does not work.
You keep telling me I have to notch, and I keep telling you that I DO try to notch and that it does not work anywhere near as reliably as with other missiles
so im pretty sure the reason it is harder to notch is because of how fast it accelerates, its kinda like why the Python 3 is harder to flare then the 9L. the closure rate is substantially faster (at lower ranges) what makes it harder to notch simply cause its able to get to you much faster and get more of you in its FOV and be able to see less of chaff because of this (if you are chaffing ofc)
if you think Mica has mistakes and is not distracted by dipoles and anti-missile maneuvers, you can check it and make a corresponding report.
I have no problem with distracting all missiles if I have time to maneuver
I think I can end the conversation here, because it is not leading anywhere
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That is ALSO, NOT, what I am saying! I have specifically mentioned that I am NOT saying things like" MICA OP" or “Nerf Rafale” or any such thing.
I am just trying to understand what I am doing wrong!
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i have no clue why he is arguing like that instead of trying to help you troubleshoot what you are doing wrong, im 90% sure my previous message might be the cause tbh
this cannot be the reason, since we are not talking about intervals of 2-3 kilometers, where its maneuverability really works, but about long distances (10-15 km) where the speed of the Mica rapidly drops against the background of the aim120
from what i recall its motor burns almost the entire time in a 10km shot
if you believe the table, the main engine + sustainer aim 120 works 1.7 + 5.3, and mica 2.75 + 4
with this energy, the aim120 will have more from them(aim120 22300+13485N vs mica 20250+10700N)
~7km
when you notch, you need to constantly change your heading, because all fox 3s have now inertial guidance when they lose track, they don’t automatically go for chaffs like before
if you can’t notch it, best bet is to dive very hard to the deck and go cold to reangage later
the seeker on MICA is the same as every fox 3
i have been able to dodge amraams launched less that 10 km of me by doing a “S” pattern to the ground while notching. It’s not easy mind you, but it works pretty well once you get the hang of it
Also remember : in WT the most efficient notch is not when the missile is at your 90° or 270°, but rather 100° and 260° respectively
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