I have a feeling that you are not trying to notch and throw dipoles, but are trying to divert missiles with a maneuver, I just don’t understand what’s wrong with you.
The R-77 is roughly the same as the Mica in the game, only slightly longer-range, but less maneuverable at close range, but you have no problems with it.
I know that the Mica was created to have a range of 80 km, as a result, in the game it can’t even hit 20 sometimes, and there’s also a limit of 50 in the game (as far as I remember, it physically can’t fly further, because it’s destroyed)
The EXACT reason that I am here, in this very thread, talking to you at this VERY moment is that I try to do the same thing to MICA’s as I do with every other missile but it just does not work.
You keep telling me I have to notch, and I keep telling you that I DO try to notch and that it does not work anywhere near as reliably as with other missiles
so im pretty sure the reason it is harder to notch is because of how fast it accelerates, its kinda like why the Python 3 is harder to flare then the 9L. the closure rate is substantially faster (at lower ranges) what makes it harder to notch simply cause its able to get to you much faster and get more of you in its FOV and be able to see less of chaff because of this (if you are chaffing ofc)
if you think Mica has mistakes and is not distracted by dipoles and anti-missile maneuvers, you can check it and make a corresponding report.
I have no problem with distracting all missiles if I have time to maneuver
I think I can end the conversation here, because it is not leading anywhere
i have no clue why he is arguing like that instead of trying to help you troubleshoot what you are doing wrong, im 90% sure my previous message might be the cause tbh
this cannot be the reason, since we are not talking about intervals of 2-3 kilometers, where its maneuverability really works, but about long distances (10-15 km) where the speed of the Mica rapidly drops against the background of the aim120
if you believe the table, the main engine + sustainer aim 120 works 1.7 + 5.3, and mica 2.75 + 4
with this energy, the aim120 will have more from them(aim120 22300+13485N vs mica 20250+10700N)
when you notch, you need to constantly change your heading, because all fox 3s have now inertial guidance when they lose track, they don’t automatically go for chaffs like before
if you can’t notch it, best bet is to dive very hard to the deck and go cold to reangage later
the seeker on MICA is the same as every fox 3
i have been able to dodge amraams launched less that 10 km of me by doing a “S” pattern to the ground while notching. It’s not easy mind you, but it works pretty well once you get the hang of it
Also remember : in WT the most efficient notch is not when the missile is at your 90° or 270°, but rather 100° and 260° respectively
This is true but the notch sector of each missile is determined in part by the closure rate of the target and the missile. And so because the MICA is the fastest accelerating missile within 18km which is usually its deployment range, it is also the most difficult missile to defeat in close range. His best bet would be to try and outrun it and drop a bunch of chaff while doing so rather than trying to perfect an almost impossible notch.
“Even though there is no current data on the absorbing capability of the RAM used by Rafale. The inner surface of the inlet duct leading to the engine stages and the radar blocker will be coated with a layer of MnZn ferrite RAM.”
by the way @DirectSupport , do you know of the thrust values used in game were pulled from any kind of source ?
If they one day fix the missile’s drag so it can reach 80km (and drop the hard 50km limit) they might have to tune it down a bit, which could make the missile a bit slower during acceleration.
A bit more threatening at longer distances, but maybe more dodgeable up close ?
Ofc yeah.
And with this model they arrive at around 1m²
I agree that with ram and composites we might be arriving at 0.1m². But not the 0.01m² that I see some people online going around with.