Turkeys stealth fighter takes flight next year, they are ahead of France in stealth technology.
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This is true when it comes to what they have deployed for fighter aircrafts, but that might not even be true because the Rafale stealth demonstrator also exists although only one is built.
The KAAN relies on a lot of technology from other countries, while the Rafale was very much a French design. The French have also had an RCS-measuring anechoic chamber since 1977 that allowed them to perfect and adopt stealth technology decades ahead of many other countries, it just didn’t incorporate those technologies into anything in service as the cost was too great, and not only that, there was no need for an a full-stealth aircraft, and instead data-fusion/sensor-fusion with multi-role and semi-stealth was a bigger priority. The F-22 having been benched and kept to Japan while the US had to use the F-15/F-16 more is a good case of that. Super Hornet would have been more relevant. F-22 is a unique rare case of being designed too far ahead of its time to be useful.
You can see that Dassault has had an anechoic chamber before anyone else besides the US.
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I would also note that the biggest technology thief stealing from the US is not Russia or China, but rather France. So if anyone is going to have great stealth tech besides the US, there’s no reason to believe it wouldn’t be the French. You can hear it from a former CIA analyst yourself in this video below. Timestamp: 2:23
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This is the first time I’ve heard that the Rafale stealth demonstrator exists, do you have any pictures of it? I’m looking forward to it because it looks really cool.
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I only have pictures of documents stating the existence of it. It is called DEDIRA (Démonstrateur de
Discrétion du Rafale).
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Thank you!
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I wouldn’t say that, the F-22 was based on 1980’s cold war requirements and was designed to ensure air dominance in a period of time where the world climate was quite uncertain. We wanted to maintain an advantage over our enemies for quite some time and the F-22 was a great investment in that regard.
Better to have the bigger stick as they say, and it was just lucky that we got it during a time when world issues didn’t really rise up to anything super serious. No super powers got into major conflicts or threatened each other with nuclear war, etc. There is also the case of the B-2 stealth bomber. No one else in the world has a nuclear bomber fleet that can fly right through enemy airspace unimpeded and drop a nuke, even today. So yeah, I think there is a great need for fully stealth aircraft. If France couldn’t justify that but had the means… that would be a very interesting conversation indeed.
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By the way, I just NEED to post this video just because of the beautiful thumbnail of the video itself.
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Very stealthy
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I didn’t expect a clap back to go this hard
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all fun and games until Squirrafael
Rafale’s RWR does not seem to detect the launch of ERs?
Not getting ID or warning from a Su 33’s launch. Consistently.
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Oh you mean F-22 replica that has no reliable information?
They claim that their stealth fighter is better than F-22/35 while at the same time they never even produced 3th gen fighters.
Turkey always makes cool prototypes that ends failure. Their ALTAY tank is one of the best example in that case, despite their claim they couldnt even start serial production after 12 years.
Safe to say their words are not something that should be taken seriously.
any idea of what the RCS currently is in game ? Maybe it’s in the files ?
Way too large
Rafale is already matured product while KAAN is nothing but fancy prototype.
Considering how many times Turkey failed to start serial production on prototype designs while making absurd claims i have zero trust in this case as well.
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assuming it enters service in the 2030s, it won’t matter anyway
Rafale has already been a moderate export success, and most importantly, a 30 year older aircraft
If, and that’s a big if, the KAAN enters service, its equivalent will be NGF.
As for “Turkey”, i would like to remind you that it is being in part developped by BAE, which is not turkish.
They also have to develop their own engine, which is no small feat, so we’ll see how that goes
As for the “stealth tech” side of things, the Rafale basically had it all, except for the bay, and a few areas of the airframe, which were not designed with stealth in mind. Neuron however made its first flight 12 years ago and was designed as a stealth drone from the get go.
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